Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-25 Thread Alex Balashov
Not directly related, but don’t forget metro ILECs who have or buy RLECs as a funnel to capture that sweet, sweet USF revenue. You know, that stuff that’s ostensibly intended to facilitate rural broadbandisation and whatnot... > On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > On 10/24/21

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-25 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 10/24/21 18:08, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Why would a company want to be both an ILEC and CLEC in the same area? Probably some regulatory benefits, as well as: "You guys at Brand X suck, I'm switching to Brand Y." Under the hood, Brand Y is essentially a CNAME for Brand X. -- Jay Hennigan - j.

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-25 Thread dfrigen
To avoid regulation…… From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 8:08 PM To: Mike Johnston ; VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names Why would a company want to be both an ILEC and CLEC in the same area

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-25 Thread Aryn Nakaoka 808.356.2901
Oct 24, 2021 at 3:19 PM Ryan Finnesey wrote: > Why would a company want to be both an ILEC and CLEC in the same area? > > > > > > > > *From:* VoiceOps *On Behalf Of *Mike > Johnston > *Sent:* Sunday, October 24, 2021 3:16 PM > *To:* VoiceOps > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-24 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Why would a company want to be both an ILEC and CLEC in the same area? From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 3:16 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names I see situations up here in Minnesota where it appears

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-24 Thread Nicholas Sten
To add to Brooks’ clarification, back in 2010-2011, O1 Communications sold the entirety of their Small to Medium Enterprise portion (including customers, leased lines, much of the networking infrastructure, the data center at 1515K Street, and other various assets) to TelePacific. O1 retained th

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-24 Thread Mike Johnston
I see situations up here in Minnesota where it appears that CenturyLink is essentially CLECing themselves.  An simple example would be Warroad, MN. https://www.telcodata.us/search-area-code-exchange-by-ratecenter-state?ratecenter=WARROAD&state=MN CENTURYTEL OF MINNESOTA, INC. (CenturyLink, Inc) O

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-24 Thread Mark R Lindsey, ECG
My understanding is that this is all about the administrative friction of transfers and re-registrations. Once you’re registered with the FCC, state Public Utilities Commissions, local authorities for access to right of way and pole access, name changes and transfers can be complex. Then there are

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-24 Thread Jay Taylor
ssage- From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Peter Beckman Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2021 5:22 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names I'm curious why companies like T-Mobile and Inteliquent/Onvoy/Voyant continue to retain company names and corporate ent

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-23 Thread Brooks Bridges
Just a point of note, Sprint does not, and never did, own O1 Communications.  The O1 and TPx (telepacific) split happened almost a decade before Siris acquired TPx.  O1 is its own privately held entity. On 10/23/2021 3:21 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: Sprint  -> O1 Communications, US Telepacific

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-23 Thread Alex Balashov
Yeah, that’s right. The amount of stuff tied to the legacy companies’ identifiers, OCNs, namesakes and so forth is stupefying. It is completely impractical to change at all. — Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors. > On Oct 23, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote: > > 

Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-23 Thread Jeff Shultz
I'd bet that taxes and business licences enter into it. For some of those companies there is a lot of paper that goes back a lot of years in various federal, state, and local file cabinets. It's sometimes easier to simply use the old names that already have a legal existence in an area than try to

[VoiceOps] Carriers Keeping Acquired Defunct Company Names

2021-10-23 Thread Peter Beckman
I'm curious why companies like T-Mobile and Inteliquent/Onvoy/Voyant continue to retain company names and corporate entities long after their brands have been retired, acquired, and generally shell entities holding phone numbers. Some examples: T-Mobile-> Omnipoint, Aerial Communications