Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2022-02-23 Thread Daniel White
Inteliquent, VoIP Innovations, etc. have been demanding brand/campaign registration for at least a full month now for any messages to process. The reseller only needs to have a account with TCR.  Then you can register on your clients behalf their brands and campaigns.  IQNT and VI are charging $50

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2022-02-23 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:35 PM Peter Beckman wrote: > > I think you overestimate the technical prowress of a small laudromat who > simply wants to notify customers that their laundry is ready! > No, it's the reverse. Because they have no ability to do this, they outsource it. And *that*

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2022-02-15 Thread Peter Beckman
Yep. Their "Business SMS limitations and restrictions" is really just a high-level copy of the CTIA Best Practices for P2P. Anything outside of that is A2P, and it is clear that RingCentral is offloading any required brand registration to their end users and directing them to The Campaign Regist

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2022-02-15 Thread Brandon Svec via VoiceOps
RingCentral started sending messages like this today. I suppose others may follow? Hello, We are writing to let you know about an upcoming change to SMS that’s affecting the entire industry. Recently, mobile carriers have begun treating all SMS from businesses large and small as commercial mes

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-12-02 Thread Ryan Delgrosso
100% agree here. This is cartel / monopoly behavior and should be attacked as such. The facts as I understand them are: 1. All API originated traffic is considered A2P regardless of if its an app with a physical single person thumbing in messages at the far end. API involved = A2P. Done (

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-29 Thread Alex Balashov
I use Twilio extensively for network and system monitoring-related texts to… myself. Don’t care about fees, charge me whatever, just please don’t make it stop working or make me do more paperwork. This stuff sounds like a possible source of disruption or additional paperwork and for the mere p

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-29 Thread Paul Timmins
From: VoiceOps on behalf of Peter Beckman Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:52 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees While I understand the concern, and it is warranted for your customers who are using 1

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-29 Thread Peter Beckman
While I understand the concern, and it is warranted for your customers who are using 10DLC numbers for business-related SMS, The Campaign Registry (TCR) will evaluate your business case for P2P if you have a valid one, such as a business that offers residential phone service. I've implemented the

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-29 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Alarmist is warranted. I am equally perplexed by the inconsistent rules, the vague language, and by everyone insisting that T-Mobile will unilaterally issue $10k fines per message. On what authority? What is the appeals process? Dozens of questions, nearly no answers. I just sent a text from o

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-16 Thread Oren Yehezkely
Nate, See a thread I started a few months ago about this matter. I got a lot of negative responses for being an alarmist. Basically these requirements are set by the different mobile carriers and they are not the same. Yes, they all consider customers to be businesses (A2P). No customer is a con

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-16 Thread Heath Eldeen via VoiceOps
Check out TheCampaignRegistry.com (TCR). They have some decent resources explaining this. You pay for each "brand" which probably matches 1:1 to your customer and for each "campaign" each customer has. Some brands could have more than one campaign depending on their needs and how you slice it. See

[VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

2021-11-15 Thread Nate Burke
Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it. I saw a notice on our Voip Innovations account today that any business DID's that send SMS messages to a consumer in any way now have to be registered with 'Campaignregistry.com' Looks like this requires a $200 signup, and then potentially