Re: [volt-nuts] Low noise reference

2018-02-17 Thread Randy Evans
ith my two Fluke 732As and two HP-3458As. Rrandall Evans On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 4:38 AM, Andre wrote: > also see https://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/ > sections/407%20Splices.html > > -Andre > > ____ > From:

[volt-nuts] Low noise reference

2018-02-16 Thread Randy Evans
I have a question for the group. I was looking at an article for building an ultra-low noise voltage reference by Walt Jung, published in Electronic Design June 24, 1993 and a URL to the article is below. I want to filter the output of an LTZ1000 based 10V reference I am building and this circuit

Re: [volt-nuts] Neon bulbs for HP 3420B or 419A chopper

2018-01-06 Thread Randy Evans
Is there a relaible source for the GT-NE6H1925T neons? Mouser has them for special order and I suspect they want a high minimum quantity. A source in China lists them but I'm not sure I trust a Chinese source. On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 8:19 AM, David C. Partridge < david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk> wr

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-31 Thread Randy Evans
hardware issue. I did the service note 13A test and the unit passed it fine. I will have to do more troubleshooting on my own but I really appreciate the help. Randy Evans. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Todd Micallef wrote: > Randy, > > I put together a quick script for testing your conn

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
Todd, Since the KE5FX NVRAM download software works, that would seem to indicate the GPIB is working, wouldn't it (download completes and checksums OK)? Randy On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > Todd, > > The minimal quick test would be greatly appreciated i

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
ls with GPIB communication > failures. There is a test within the document to see if a shorting jumper > needs to be installed. > I can try reducing the code to something minimal for a quick test if you > want. It will take some time in the morning. > > Todd > > On S

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
if anything other than KE5FX's memory dump > program > >> > will work on my HP3458A. > >> > Thanks again, > >> > Randy > >> > > >> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > >> > Original message

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
ything can be done to replicate your issue. > > Todd > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Randy Evans > wrote: > > > Todd, > > > > I tried adding the line but it made no difference. > > > > Randy > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
Todd, I tried adding the line but it made no difference. Randy On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > Todd, > > Does it matter where I put the line in the Init_Device procedure? > > > procedure Init_Device; > begin; >EZGPIB_BusWrite

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
an EOI on every read. > > I am looking for one of my Prologix adapters or I would test this. When I > find it, I will also test it. I want to make sure there are no further > issues. > Also, do both meters run the same firmware versions? I wonder if the HP > meter is using

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
s using a much older version. > > Todd > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Randy Evans > wrote: > > > Todd, > > > > I have version 1.01. Yes, please e-mail me your modified version. Maybe > it > > will help. > > > > Thanks, > > > > R

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
rks for you, I will > have Illya update it on xDevs. > > Todd > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Randy Evans > wrote: > > > I am still unable to get my HP-3458A to work with the xdevs program > > "HP3458A_Measure_DMM_Noise.488" (https://xdevs.com/article/dmm_

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-29 Thread Randy Evans
ave a EZGPIB program that I could try to run (that is different from the Xdev program)? It would be nice to see if I could get something to work other than the HP3458.EXE program. Or if any one has some ideas on what to look for. Thanks, Randy Evans On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Randy Evans w

[volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-26 Thread Randy Evans
rt to take voltage and temperature measurements and send them to the PC. Any ideas on what might be causing the strange behavior? Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ma

Re: [volt-nuts] Drifting 3458As

2017-12-01 Thread Randy Evans
to see if there is agreement that the A9 board is likely the culprit. Thanks, Randy Evans On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:58 AM, wrote: > What you describe (A9 drift) would be the explanation. However question is > how much you see. The A9 should not drift much in the intervals you talk > ab

[volt-nuts] Drifting 3458As

2017-11-29 Thread Randy Evans
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Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
od stable 3458A stable to <0.2ppm over week. On November 24, 2017 9:32:30 AM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Illya, > > Can you explain why you say " If ACAL DCV does not remove drift then A3 > is probably fine". I don't really f

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
serviced at some time. > > On November 24, 2017 8:40:00 AM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < > randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Illya, >> >> I ran the test you suggested over 4 days and got 7.19114068 VDC on the >> start of the test and 7.19113736 VDC at the

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
the A3 card is the primary source of drifting. Since the unit is a late model Agilent unit, that is well beyond the expected range of units described in Service Note 18. What do you think? Thanks, Randy Evans On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Illya Tsemenko wrote: > Since you have 732A, test

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > When I try to execute a 10V cal, I get an error code "209 HARDWARE FAILURE > - - INTERNAL OVERLOAD:31" I suspect that the unit has a different > security code than 3458. I can't change it without opening up the unit, > which

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
o you have any other suggestions on how to check the A9 card? On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Randy Evans wrote: > Illya, > > That is a great idea. I will give it a try. > > Thanks > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Illya Tsemenko wrote: > >> Since you have 732A, testin

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
directly in the meter, and there are still gain parts to get +12 and > -12VREF on A3 and 10Vish bipolar levels on A1. If your CAL? 2,1 stays same > (within 0.3ppm) then A9 is fine. > > > On November 18, 2017 12:59:53 PM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < > randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote

[volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-17 Thread Randy Evans
. Thanks, Randy Evans HP-3458A Calibration drift rate 2017-11-17A.xlsx Description: MS-Excel 2007 spreadsheet ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-11 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, Thanks for the information. I was hoping to hear from someone that had actually successfully used the DS1220AD in the 3458A. I did not understand the comment about the "instrument of 'quarks'", but it may be in regards to the second set of DS1230Y NVRAMs? Did you change those out to DS12

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-10 Thread Randy Evans
that has actually successfully replaced the DS1220Y with the DS1220AD, since the DS1220Y is no longer avaialble.. On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message gmail.com> > , Randy Evans writes: > > >Does anyone know if the DS1220AD

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-10 Thread Randy Evans
access." There have been documented cases where the new DS1220AD part will not work in circuits designed with the DS1220Y (now discontinued). I would like to know if anyone has successfully utilized the DS1220AD before proceeding to buy the parts. Similar question for the DS1230Y and D

Re: [volt-nuts] Banana jack shorting straps

2017-11-09 Thread Randy Evans
I believe that the Fluke shorting system has 3/4" spacing both vertically and horizontally, which is not compatible with the 3458 (I couldn't find a spec but visually it looks identically in both dimensions in the photos). The 3458 spacing is slightly greater than 3/4' horizontally. On Thu, Nov 9,

[volt-nuts] EPROM Programmer

2017-11-07 Thread Randy Evans
e DS1230Y NVRAM, but does still make the DS1230Y NVRAM, according to their data sheet). Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [volt-nuts] Prema 6048 Cal switch confusion

2017-11-03 Thread Randy Evans
ntrolling processor does not become active during a power-up cycle for at least 125ms to ensure that the NV SRAM is available before the processor attempts a memory access. Randy Evans On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 2:54 AM, David C. Partridge < david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > This gets od

Re: [volt-nuts] FS: Keithley 2000 6 1/2 Digit DMM

2017-05-04 Thread Randy Evans
Bob, Please send me the Paypal information for sending you the payment. Would you send me pictures of the unit also? thanks Randy Evans On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Four Designs Company < fourdesi...@comcast.net> wrote: > Sold! >

Re: [volt-nuts] FS: Keithley 2000 6 1/2 Digit DMM

2017-05-04 Thread Randy Evans
Bob, I am interested in the Keithley if it is still available. Thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Four Designs Company < fourdesi...@comcast.net> wrote: > Greetings all: > > I am offering a Keithley 2000 6-1/2 digit DMM for sale. This instrument is > from m

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-29 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, The 8 pA bias current is well within the spec for the LTC1050 (+-10pA typical, worst case +-50pA at 25C) but I was surprised about the lack of variation. I also tried an "air bridge" wiring from the 887 filter to the LTC1050 to avoid any leakage of the circuit board. It made no difference,

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-27 Thread Randy Evans
It looks like a better candidate would be the LTC2054, which has a typical bias current of 1 pA at 25C and is essentially constant up to 45C. Randy On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > Charles, > > You are absolutely correct. I misread the data sheet. It's inte

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-27 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, You are absolutely correct. I misread the data sheet. It's interesting that all three LTC1050s behave exactly the same. They have the same lot code number.but I would expect more variation. Live an learn. Randy On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Randy wrot

[volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-26 Thread Randy Evans
. However, this would imply an 8pA bias current, which is much higher than expected. My question is: does anyone else have a better explanation for this issue and does anyone experience this issue with the original circuit? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG

Re: [volt-nuts] Short term "standard" cell?

2017-03-13 Thread Randy Evans
FYI, I bought two of these used 3458A reference boards for $85 each a few years ago and they both experience noise bursts. I plan on replacing the LTZ1000 chips on them (sometime in the near future). Randy Evans AE6YG On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:53 AM, m k wrote: > > > On 12/03/17

Re: [volt-nuts] DAS-46 CSA repair - fixed

2017-02-13 Thread Randy Evans
Jerry, I have a DAS-46 that I picked up but have yet to work on it. I would like to get a copy of the LTSpice chopper model that you developed. Thanks, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jerry Hancock wrote: > Hello, again all: > > Interest

Re: [volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-13 Thread Randy Evans
KiCad looks very good and I downloaded it to try it out. However, does anyone have a good, low-cost PCB fab house to recommend? I am designing a voltage reference programmable fro 0 to 10 volts with a LTZ1000 reference and settabiltiy of 0.1ppm and I need a PCB fabbed. Thanks, Randy Evans

[volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-12 Thread Randy Evans
Does anyone have experience with PCBArtist? It looks pretty good for 2-layer board up to 60 in^2 for $33 but I have no experience with it. I was looking at Eagle PCB but it's pretty expensive for a 4-layer capability version. Thanks, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] LTZ1000 project build

2016-05-26 Thread Randy Evans
Illya, Very interesting. The temco/stability data does not plot but the X-Y format seems to be OK. Is it supposed to plot or do I have to plot it myself with the csv data? Thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Illya Tsemenko wrote: > I'm glad my little project got

Re: [volt-nuts] Retiring collection of 6/7 dial bridges

2016-04-10 Thread Randy Evans
I live locally and I am interested in the items. Do you have a complete list available? Randy Evans On Apr 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Demian Martin" wrote: > I have a number of precision bridges and the like that I really need to > move > on to a new home. Is there anyone local to m

Re: [volt-nuts] ADA4522

2016-04-08 Thread Randy Evans
esistance. > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 08. April 2016 um 03:35 Uhr > > Von: "Randy Evans" > > An: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" > > Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] ADA4522 > > > > Sure, all good applications. I am think

Re: [volt-nuts] ADA4522

2016-04-07 Thread Randy Evans
ffered outputs with good reverse isolation... > > Daniel > Em 07/04/2016 13:31, "Randy Evans" escreveu: > > > Has anyone looked at the ADA4522 precision op amp from Analog Devices. > It > > looks very intriguing with it's extremely low offset voltage drift

[volt-nuts] ADA4522

2016-04-07 Thread Randy Evans
Has anyone looked at the ADA4522 precision op amp from Analog Devices. It looks very intriguing with it's extremely low offset voltage drift of 22 nV/°C maximum. The offset voltage is as high as 5 uV but this could be nulled out and it should be very stable over temperature after that. It could

Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 77, Issue 15

2016-01-31 Thread Randy Evans
Willy, Where are you located? Randy Evans AE6YG On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 AM, new wrote: > I'm thinking of doing non-commercial 'calibrations' for > folks like us volt-nuts. > > Since I have three 3458s, three 732As, a 732b, a 4214, > an sr104, a 4210,

Re: [volt-nuts] "A Solid-State Reference System". Author: John R. Pickering

2015-12-11 Thread Randy Evans
Have the Pickering paper and the Spreadbury and Deaver papers been uploaded to K04BB's site? If not, I would like to get copies e-mailed to me also. Thanks, Randy Evans On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Frank wrote: > > yes I have this paper, size

Re: [volt-nuts] any voltnuts in the Chicagoland area?

2015-10-01 Thread Randy Evans
I would like to know if there are any volt-nuts in the San Francisco bay area; e.g., San Jose area where I live. Randy Evans AE6YG On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > Interesting idea a voltnuts location database > On Sep 30, 2015 12:34 PM, wrote: > > > I

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-27 Thread Randy Evans
I used a 12 AWG wire formed into a U shape for the short and the zero voltage measured less than 0.2 uV after a good 2+ hour warmup. However, I am seeing drifts of several uV for the 752 calibration. I was using TV twin lead to connect the 732 to 752 and 752 to 3458A since that's really all I hav

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A Zero Reading

2015-07-26 Thread Randy Evans
A bit of a false lead. I took the readings after an hour of warmup. However, after about two hours, the zero reading went to less thatn 0.2 uV, which seems just fine to me. I guess i just needed to get a really good warmup time. However, the 752 readings are varying over several uV when doing th

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A Zero Reading

2015-07-26 Thread Randy Evans
I shorted the input terminals of my HP-3458A with a short lead of copper wire, Bell telephone wire as recommended in the manual. The reading I get is around 000.00070 mV, or 0.7 uV with NLPC set to 100. I was trying to evaluate it's use as a null meter for my Fluke 752A divider. This seems a lit

[volt-nuts] Test Leads

2015-07-21 Thread Randy Evans
opper spade lugs (Pomona 2305 Low thermal EMF spade lug, Gold-plated?). Any other suggestions? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follo

Re: [volt-nuts] Oven thermal insulation

2015-07-07 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, I don't plan on operating at 80C. I just want an insulation that can withstand up to 80C so i have a safety margin. 45C is probably too low for my environment but 50C might be doable. Thanks, Randy On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Frank Stellmach wrote: > > Hi Randy, > > > 80°C and 'h

[volt-nuts] Oven thermal insulation

2015-07-06 Thread Randy Evans
that looks like it would work really well, but I have no idea what it is. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419A Fluke 845A Mods - shared link

2015-06-24 Thread Randy Evans
Dave, I checked the HP-419A marked up schematic and I find it very clear and readable. Does anyone else have problem reading the pdf file? Thanks, Randy Evans On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > Dave, > > I should have checked it. I will generate a higher r

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419A Fluke 845A Mods - shared link

2015-06-24 Thread Randy Evans
ost a higher resolution image of the markup > details? Don't really need the full schematic, just the areas where the > connections to the new circuit are made. > > > Thanks again, > Dave M > > > Randy Evans wrote: > >> I have created a shared link to my workin

[volt-nuts] HP-419A Fluke 845A Mods - shared link

2015-06-23 Thread Randy Evans
design a bit. Hopefully I created the link correctly. Let me know if you have any issues with the link. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7b3hsy0j0wq35hw/AABkmVptTwVu2EJFRqtSdAjya?dl=0 Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2015-06-21 Thread Randy Evans
Hi, I have largely finished the design but it's designed to support the HP-419A and Fluke 845A, with an isolation circuit for the HP-419A. Unfortunatley, I have not had time to finish the implementation (PCB design and build) due to a heavy work scdhedule over the last year, and its not getting a

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A questions

2015-06-03 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, Thanks for the data. The 100K seems acceptable since I have a Fluke 732A to recalibrate the 3458A with after the change and the 3458A is not in a rack. Randy On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Frank Stellmach wrote: > Hi Randy, > > in advance, this change only improves the stability of t

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A questions

2015-06-02 Thread Randy Evans
but I am confused how to use it (I want to back up my HP-3458A before I attempt to replace the display board). thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board

2015-04-16 Thread Randy Evans
und the exchange program is still in place. > The > > PN is 03458-69517 and the price is $278. > > > > Randy Evans AE6YG > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Randy Evans > > wrote: > > > > > I need to replace the display board for my HP-3458A (se

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board

2015-04-15 Thread Randy Evans
FYI, I contacted Keysight and found the exchange program is still in place. The PN is 03458-69517 and the price is $278. Randy Evans AE6YG On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > I need to replace the display board for my HP-3458A (several dim to > missing pixels). Ther

[volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board

2015-04-15 Thread Randy Evans
I need to replace the display board for my HP-3458A (several dim to missing pixels). There used to be a swap program for the display board but I can't find it on Keysight's website. Does anyone know if it's still available? If so, how do I find it? Thank

Re: [volt-nuts] Link to LTZ1000 temperature calculation plot

2015-02-16 Thread Randy Evans
Thanks Jan, These plots should prove very useful. Randy Evans On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Jan Fredriksson wrote: > It's reply #984 in the thread. See also #982 > > http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/ultra-precision-reference-ltz1000/msg605967/#msg605967 > > Di

Re: [volt-nuts] LTZ1000A Heater Temp (Ben Clark)

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Evans
Jan, Would you please post the link to your plot? I searched but haven't found it yet. thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Jan Fredriksson wrote: > I posted a plot of calculated resistor values versus temperature in > the LTZ1000 thread on the EVV blog yetserda

Re: [volt-nuts] [Bulk] Re: 3458A reference boards on ebay

2015-01-29 Thread Randy Evans
The reference module is in a metal box and uses an external linear PS with internal separate regulation. I don't think its external EMI, but anything is possible. Randy On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik Dietrich wrote: > > Am 29.01.2015 04:07, schrieb Randy Evans: > >

Re: [volt-nuts] [Bulk] Re: 3458A reference boards on ebay

2015-01-28 Thread Randy Evans
I bought two HP-3458A ref boards from John Daly (he no longer has any more) and they worked fine but have intermittent noise bursts. I suspect they were rejects from HP/Agilent. At some point I will probably replace the LTZ1000As and reduce the internal temperature set point for better stability.

[volt-nuts] Design Spark PCB Design Package

2015-01-05 Thread Randy Evans
This is indirectly pertinent to the group since I am designing a PCB for the HP-419A and Fluke 845A modifications. Does anyone have any experience/comments on the Design Spark PCB design package? Is is a viable package for hobbyist use? thanks, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Evans
connector, and then > wiring the daughter board onto the trace remnants still running to the > connector. The only downside would be no resale to a purist who wants to > run with the David Wise HP H11 linear optocoupler/photochopper replacement > (see HP yahoo group for HP740b ). > &

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-03 Thread Randy Evans
Thanks Mark, I will take a look at them. I don't have a PCB package to generate Gerbers yet so i am somewhat locked into services like ExpressPCB. Randy On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Mark Sims wrote: > OSHPARK.COM is in the US and will do three boards for $5/sq inch... with > no setup or sh

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-02 Thread Randy Evans
to end without the need to re-adjust the null meters zero. > This was the driving source for my mod, > > Dallas > > > Randy Evans wrote: >> >>> I finished the H-419A/Fluke 845A design modifications but I am still >>>> trying to decide on the preferred po

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-01 Thread Randy Evans
s possible. > By leaving the existing inverter circuit in place, you can easily derive > any voltages (+ and -) that your mod needs from it, without the need for > additional isolated power supplies > > Dave M > > > > Randy Evans wrote: > >> I finished the H-419A/F

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-11-30 Thread Randy Evans
would query the group. Any thoughts on what would be your preferences? Thanks, Randy Evans On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Randy Evans wrote: > I am looking at modifying my (defective) HP419A and Fluke 845A Null meters > using the LTC2054 zero drift op amp. I am planning on using a s

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-11-26 Thread Randy Evans
he > optical chopper. Any help or made expericance would perfect. > > BR > Ludger / PeLuLe > > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 09. August 2014 um 03:23 Uhr > *Von:* "Randy Evans" > *An:* "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" > *Betreff:* Re: [volt-nu

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A rear panel battery connector

2014-10-20 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, Thanks for the update. I was able to get a cable plug set from Todd Micallef. Randy On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Randy wrote: > > Does anyone have a spare connector plug for the 732A external battery >> *** ( I saw several in discussions but I'm not su

[volt-nuts] 732A rear panel battery connector

2014-10-13 Thread Randy Evans
Does anyone have a spare connector plug for the 732A external battery connector that they would be willing to sell. Or conversely, a good Fluke PN for the connector ( I saw several in discussions but I'm not sure which is the best part number to use). Thanks, Randy

Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-09-21 Thread Randy Evans
I checked my 3458A and it says that the Rev is 8.2. What can I infer about the unit? I have not opened it up yet to check the status of the NVRAM since I am waiting for the posidrive tools. Randy On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 9:20 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > Not in front of my meter right now but

[volt-nuts] 732A and 3458A stability

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Evans
lue of the readings are around 10.58 VDC but neither unit is calibrated. I assume they can be calibrated but I wanted to make sure they are stable first. Do these numbers look reasonable and do they indicate any issues with the units? Thanks, Randy Evans __

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
ed reference. but my assumption re the above is that your meter is > always on, as I said) 732a references et al do have small short term > drifts, you can determine them with a josephson element (these guys told > me), but the 732a is certainly very stable short term compared to a 3

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
with a josephson element (these guys told me), but the 732a is > certainly very stable short term compared to a 3458a. my 732a e.g. has a > drift of 0.2ppm per year. > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 um 14:36 Uhr > > Von: "Randy Evans" > > An: &q

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
I forgot to mention that I reduced the number of measurements to 100 per set since I wasn't seeing much difference in the variance between 100 and 1000 measurements and the 1000 measurement per set takes too long. Randy On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Randy Evans wrote: > I am doing

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
gt; > thanks > > > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. August 2014 um 04:23 Uhr > > Von: "Randy Evans" > > An: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" > > Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received > > > > Is there any way to

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-26 Thread Randy Evans
he > display it is done. But then with 1000 PLC that is around 16.66 seconds > per > reading times 100 readings is somewhere around 28 minutes and there is > probably some overhead time so around 30 minutes. Not from the front panel > at any rate. > > Bill > >

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-25 Thread Randy Evans
while before it's complete, but i have to guess when it's done. Thanks, Randy On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > Bill, > > I am trying to figure out the MATH function without much success. I input > the sequence you said (I looked up the instructions t

[volt-nuts] Access to Volt-Nuts Web site

2014-08-25 Thread Randy Evans
For some reason I can no longer access the Volt-Nuts web site. Has anything changed on the permissions list? Is anyone else having this problem? I get the following message: "You don't have permission to access /pipermail/volt-nuts/ on this server." Thanks, Randy _

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
up to the 732A 1.0 volt output I got > a variation of 0.159 uVolts using the same 40 reading method above. I > would > use this to determine where your problem might exist. Just having the > meter > input shorted will point you in the right direction. Meter, cables or > 732

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
uVolts using the same 40 reading method above. I > would > use this to determine where your problem might exist. Just having the > meter > input shorted will point you in the right direction. Meter, cables or > 732A. > > Sorry for the long dissertation. Friends get mad at me fo

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
ore after plugging in the leads due to the "thermals" > > > generated because of the difference in temperature between the banana > jacks > > > on the 732A and the banana plugs of the leads. I have found that even > just > > > plugging in the lead will generat

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
> able > to make a measurement after plugging in the leads. I just measured the > variation of the 1 volt output of my 732A and using my 3458A and I got a > total difference of 0.159 uV over 40 measurements using 100 PLC on the 1 > volt range of the 3458A. Using the MATH function and a

[volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-22 Thread Randy Evans
I hope someone can help with a strange anomaly on either my 3458A or the 732A. The 732A 10V output as measured on my 3458A seems relatively stable over time (it bounces around about +/-1 uV but is it the 732 or the 3458?). However, the 1.000 VDC output drifts downward at a rate around 1-2 uV per

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-22 Thread Randy Evans
circuit may need adjusting. I tweaked mine and it > seemed to work fine. > > Todd > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Randy Evans > wrote: > > > I received my Fluke 732A today. Just powered it up but it needs new > > batteries. Any suggestions for sources (

[volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-22 Thread Randy Evans
I received my Fluke 732A today. Just powered it up but it needs new batteries. Any suggestions for sources (I haven't opened up the unit yet - I want to make sure it works before doing that). Also received the ProLogix USB-GPIB adapter. I plan on using Mark Sims' CAL ran data dumper program to

Re: [volt-nuts] HP 3458A Mem test 1 hight. How do you read 32K memory chips?

2014-08-21 Thread Randy Evans
Mark, I just ordered the ProLogix USB-GPIB converter specifically to read the contents of my 3458A. Would it be possible to get a copy of your program that you wrote to read the memory contents. It would be greatly appreciated and save me a lot of work and frustration. thanks, Randy On Wed,

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-18 Thread Randy Evans
ock Then hit down arrow twice in the > "FUNCTION/RANGE" key block. You will now have TEMP? on the display. Then > hit the "Enter" key in the "NUMERIC/USER" key block. Now you should see the > TEMP? value in degrees Celsius. > > Charlie > > > On 8/1

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
rature measurement. > > Todd > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Randy Evans > wrote: > > > Can someone explain to me how to read the internal temperature using the > > front panel TEMP? command. I have played around but I am doing > something > &

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
Can someone explain to me how to read the internal temperature using the front panel TEMP? command. I have played around but I am doing something wrong. thanks, Randy On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Randy Evans wrote: > That worked! Now it reads 000.00030mV. So far it looks good exc

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 732A themistor reading

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
nable. Randy On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Todd Micallef wrote: > Randy, > > Next thing you know, you will be looking at a 10K standard resistor to go > with that 3458A and possible 732A. > > Todd > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Randy Evans > wrote: >

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
quot;. > > See pg. # 64 of the CAL Manual for the syntax. > > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "Randy Evans" > To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] RE &

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 732A themistor reading

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
f this reading over time that is very > important. > Fluke says that it could change as much as 10 ohms per month but mine are > rock solid for years and years. > > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "Randy Evans" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 11

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
y "3458" first as most are set to > this password. Read the Calibration Manual pg. #8 for how to get inside of > the meter. You will need two sizes of a PosiDrive type screwdrivers to > accomplish this. Again in the Cal Manual. > > Bill > > - Original Message -

Re: [volt-nuts] RE "new" 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
the pins to fit my display > board and then get something like 72 pins into the holes on the PC Board. > It took hours. This change is probably why HP/Agilent/Keysight doesn't let > you just get the display anymore but wants you to get the whole PC Board > assembly. It di

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