Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-28 Thread ed breya
If you do modify the circuit, you will probably want to decrease the series R. Even though the external loads are likely to be in the megohm range, the feedback load is significant, and likely the biggest part, except for fault conditions. For lowest noise and suppression of effects due to bias

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-27 Thread Bob Smither
On 11/27/2012 07:37 PM, ed breya wrote: > I'm not sure how much elaboration is needed, but here's some: > > If you take all of the feedback from the output terminal, that's better for DC > accuracy by eliminating the voltage drop of the series resistor, while still > providing some overload protec

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-27 Thread ed breya
I'm not sure how much elaboration is needed, but here's some: If you take all of the feedback from the output terminal, that's better for DC accuracy by eliminating the voltage drop of the series resistor, while still providing some overload protection to the opamp. But, it also decreases phas

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-27 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Ed, I am a little confused with regard to your paragraphs 3 & 4. Could you elaborate on those two paragraphs ? thank you, BillWB6BNQ ed breya wrote: > The simplest way to drop the output impedance without adding much > circuitry is to just change the series R to 100 ohms or so - that

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-27 Thread ed breya
The simplest way to drop the output impedance without adding much circuitry is to just change the series R to 100 ohms or so - that would still give pretty good isolation from capacitive loading. If the R is dropped to zero, the DC performance will be best, but you'll have to worry about the a

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-26 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bob, If all you intend to use the 10 volt output, perhaps it would be better to move the sense string positive terminal to the output banana jack leaving the 1K resistor in the circuit. That is, take the top connection R8A and move it to the other side of R18, preferably right at the banana

Re: [volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-26 Thread Fred Schneider
You can add an voltage follower. Made one using a LT1052 and LT1010 ( if i have the number right, a power opamp) the design is from Williams, he uses it in is his sub 1ppm reference. I use it to buffer the 731A, that is less stable as my home made LM399, that is getting more stable every week.

[volt-nuts] 731A output impedance

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Smither
The 731A is specified to have an output impedance of less than 1.1K in the 10V setting. A meter with 10 M input Z therefore causes a .01% (100 ppm) reading error. I understand that when operated using a null meter the output impedance is not a problem. I would like to use my 731A as a bench sta