Re: Shipping LN2 or liquified air

2005-02-17 Thread Frederick Sparber
Horace Heffner (The Grand Dragon Professor of Vortex-l) wrote: :-) Like I said, if you feel that is true go for it. I have other things I would much rather discuss. I will soon return to ignoring highly speculative posts on this issue. Good idea. That gives others a chance to mull over a

Re: Smokestack CO2 LN2 Production

2005-02-17 Thread Frederick Sparber
The most obvious place to reduce atmospheric CO2 is at the stacks of fossil fuel-burning power plants(about 3 pounds/Kilowatt-hour), lime-kilns, cement plants, and other fixed sources. The worlds hydrosphere and terrestrial biomass growth can handle holding the atmospheric CO2 level at

Re: Shipping LN2 or liquified air

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
Frederick Sparber writes Horace Heffner (The Grand Dragon Professor of Vortex-l) wrote: :-) Like I said, if you feel that is true go for it. I have other things I would much rather discuss. I will soon return to ignoring highly speculative posts on this issue. Good idea. That gives

BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
[It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not say it, because people viewing the television will believe them. - JR] Horizon Thu 17 Feb, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm 50mins (BBC2) An Experiment to Save the

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Huffman
Gnorts, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Jed. Knuke Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 16:47 schrieb Jed Rothwell: [It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not

Book is revised slightly / Paper by Fleischmann

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
I revised the book slightly and uploaded new versions. I corrected six or eight typos, improved the caption to figure 16.6, and added a new figure to chapter 13. No big deal. Yesterday, I uploaded a gigantic bear of a paper paper by Martin Fleischmann et al. it took me a week to prepare it. This

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Huffman wrote: Gnorts, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Jed. And the BBC has been doing them for -- what? -- six weeks? And yet they claim: If the experiment works, then the world could be on the way to a new form of cheap, unlimited, pollution

Emailing: ethics

2005-02-17 Thread RC Macaulay
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Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
Ahoy Knuke, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Even so, it was a big mistake, and typical mainstream arrogance, that in all the publicity that Taleyarkhan recieved (riding on the ORNL coat-tails) that he did not credit nor even mention the extraordinary

RE: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Jed + Knuke, If the dream dies, can the reality of LENR finally come out? I for one am getting kind of sick of the dreaming K. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:05 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: BBC

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 10:47 am 17-02-05 -0500, you wrote: [It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not say it, because people viewing the television will believe them. - JR] Horizon Thu 17 Feb, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, not cold fusion. The rates are very low and the method would not work if power output were at commercial levels, yet this work gets attention. In

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Huffman
Moin Moin! I'm just glad (and a bit surprised, actually) to see Taleyarkhan's work being examined at all. I read very vague references to his work when I first started researching cavitation in 1993, and that was in the form of some BBS messages or something. It wasn't even on the internet.

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Steven Krivit
have !). Caveat: this criticism relates to the first ORNL announcement and they may have issued an addenda, but if so, it didn't make the news. I am told that the second paper addressed the criticism from the first paper: http://newenergytimes.com/news/8.htm#impulsedevices s

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
Given a moment to reflect on ALL of the circumstances...DUH... one should always follow the buck first and ask questions later. Even so, it was a big mistake, and typical mainstream arrogance, that in all the publicity that Taleyarkhan recieved (riding on the ORNL coat-tails) that he did not

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 10:44 am 17-02-05 -0700, you wrote: Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, snip or cold fusion occuring in Beta-aether vacua cavities. 8^) Grimer

RE: Emailing: ethics

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Howdy RC, I showed your document to Coyote, he yelped and barked and generally carried on so as I had to plug my ears for all the racket. After things calmed down, he sent me here. http://thesmokinggun.com/enron/enronethics1.html Coyote recommended it to me, and I to you. Can we get more

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
I think it's easier not to confuse cold fusion with hot fusion by introducing the Beta-ether concept. We have enough trouble just talking about what is known without introducing what is unknown. Cold fusion describes nuclear reactions that take place in special atomic lattices without

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Terry Blanton
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Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Michael Huffman Actually, I think that I am confusing Taleyarkhan with an earlier researcher with a similar name. I did a quick Google, and came up with a paper at: http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/hottopics/bubble/1067589.pdf Hey, along similar

Re: Secure self-sustaining mini-mega pyramid communities

2005-02-17 Thread Baronvolsung
Additional Comments: 1. Note: Mini-mega-pyramidal and saucer-dome communities should also be able to withstand earthquakes and floods, by making the pyramids earthquake proof and water tight. High strength metals, crystals and plastics, and nanotechnologies especially those made from highly

Re: Silicon as an energy storage medium

2005-02-17 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:33 AM 2/16/5, Nick Palmer wrote: This looks like a good way of transporting renewable energy (in this case from hot sunny countries). Nick http://www.dbresearch.com/PROD/DBR_INTERNET_EN-PROD/PROD00079095.pdf Sorry for the delay in responding to this. This is an excellent and

Re: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Nick Palmer wrote: Well, they didn't find any neutrons above background using more sophisticated neutron detection... I take it you are describing the BBC program. Who are they? What did they conclude? Please give us a little more detail. - Jed

Re: Emailing: ethics

2005-02-17 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 2/17/05 9:10:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Setting the Standard Code of Ethics and Business Conduct Thanks for this post which I can use for my company ethics. From my understanding many companies, individuals, and organizations are controlled,

Re: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 05:00 pm 17-02-05 -0500, you wrote: Nick Palmer wrote: Well, they didn't find any neutrons above background using more sophisticated neutron detection... I take it you are describing the BBC program. Who are they? What did they conclude? Please give us a little more detail. - Jed

Re: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Palmer
Here's the programme details. If you want the programme transcript it is available on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/experiment_prog_summary.shtml In March 2002, the scientific world was rocked by some astonishing news: a

Re: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 10:46 pm 17-02-05 -, you wrote: Here's the programme details. If you want the programme transcript it is available on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/experiment_prog_summary.shtml Actually, that is the summary, Nick. The transcript is at:

Re: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: Frank Grimer = The experiment was carried out by Seth Putterman, one of the world's leading practitioners of sonoluminescence. His data was analysed by a panel in the UK that included experts in sonoluminescence and neutron detection.

Re: Emailing: ethics

2005-02-17 Thread Horace Heffner
At 11:08 AM 2/17/5, RC Macaulay wrote: [snip] Honesty: to be truthful in all our endeavors; to be honest and forthright with one another and with our representatives, customers, communities, and suppliers. [snip] I see NO US government agencies adopt it. They have a Mission

How to Destroy the Earth

2005-02-17 Thread Terry Blanton
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RE: Horizon

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey RC, You write: The point of this post is to suggest that chlorine may have a place in examining SL events. I seem to remember free hydrogen and chlorine recombining with greater brisance and at lower energies than hydrogen and oxygen. Perhaps that is why when you loaded the water with

Re: Horizons

2005-02-17 Thread RC Macaulay
Hiya Keith, Wire draw is valve "lingo" for describing cavitation effects that damage a valve seat by a cutting action that sometimes looks like a razor blade had cut across the seat face. Valve sizing is important ,not only for flow control, but also to recognize an extreme high