Re: Fwd: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (rePete?) I don't think Mr. (Dr. {hon.}) Bearden understands all he knows. He has two good ideas: "regauging" and "reverse-time (conjugate) waves". Unfortunately, I'm still paying for the power company to oscillate my electrons at 60 Hz. And all I hear are excuses f

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Grimer
At 01:35 pm 02/01/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Frank. > >William (Bill) Lyne lives up at Lamy, New Mexico Southeast >of Ed Storms' Santa Fe Abode. I csalled him this morning for a short chat >and challenged him to join Vortex.. At age 67 he's seasoned enough. > >http://www.google.com/maps?q=Lamy,+NM+

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:42:40 -0700: Hi Ed, [snip] >Robin, you ignore the main problem associated with this phenomena. The >NAE is unique and delicate. If the electrolyte is circulated, it will >pick up impurities that will accelerate destruction of the catho

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Robin, you ignore the main problem associated with this phenomena. The NAE is unique and delicate. If the electrolyte is circulated, it will pick up impurities that will accelerate destruction of the cathode. If the gas is circulated, it also will pick up impurities that will react with the

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:11:30 -0700: Hi, >The only reason to use the electrolytic approach at this time is because >this method creates the NAE on occasion. The other methods require the >NAE to be created on purpose, which a few people have done without >kno

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread hohlrauml6d
I don't think Mr. (Dr. {hon.}) Bearden understands all he knows. He has two good ideas: "regauging" and "reverse-time (conjugate) waves". Unfortunately, I'm still paying for the power company to oscillate my electrons at 60 Hz. And all I hear are excuses for the MEG. He had one idea right a

weird glow from aluminum... is UV output short or long?

2006-01-02 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005, William Beaty wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, thomas malloy wrote: > > According to Reich, nanobacteria, or something similar, can be > > produced by placing beach sand, previously heated to incandescence on > > sterile growth medium, in a orgone accumulator. Perhaps this strate

Re: weird glow from aluminum... is UV output short or long?

2006-01-02 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, William Beaty wrote: > What if the blue glow from Al electrolysis CAN produce tanning; what if > it's a source of "hard" shortwave UV radiation? Separate topic: exotic biology. If the ultraviolet glow is from microbes, then bactericides such as Sodium Azide or perhaps even c

Fwd: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread hohlrauml6d
(rePete?) I don't think Mr. (Dr. {hon.}) Bearden understands all he knows. He has two good ideas: "regauging" and "reverse-time (conjugate) waves". Unfortunately, I'm still paying for the power company to oscillate my electrons at 60 Hz. And all I hear are excuses for the MEG.    He had one i

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Edmund Storms
The only reason to use the electrolytic approach at this time is because this method creates the NAE on occasion. The other methods require the NAE to be created on purpose, which a few people have done without knowing how. However, once the NAE can be created in large amounts, what would be t

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:35:11 -0700: Hi, [snip] >The problem with a wet cell is that material is continuously being >transferred from the anode to the cathode, and Li is slowly dissolving >in the cathode. This can not be prevented. These changes will >eventua

Re: Guy Suits on The Life of William David Coolidge

2006-01-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Interesting biography and GE research lab history.   http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/coolidge.html   "The only person ever elected in his lifetime to the National Inventor's Hall of Fame lived for 102 years."   National Academy of Sciences Memorial Biography By C. G. SUITS Director

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Edmund Storms
The problem with a wet cell is that material is continuously being transferred from the anode to the cathode, and Li is slowly dissolving in the cathode. This can not be prevented. These changes will eventually destroy the NAE. In addition, the higher the temperature, the faster these reactio

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: OK, I can't really argue with that, beyond saying such calculations are useful for showing exactly what you just said: wet cells operate at too low a temperature. I do not know any reason why a wet cell could not be pressurized to operate at 200 or 300°C. This wo

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
You got me on that, Stephen. When you try to interpret Tom Bearden it could be ELLIOT NESS or LOCH NESS. :-) Fred > [Original Message] > From: Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: vortex-l > Date: 1/2/2006 9:41:50 AM > Subject: Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BE

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
I found this totally opaque. Is it possible to shed a little light on it in a few words? Frederick Sparber wrote: Tom Bearden Sez. "The point is that any charge produces a continuous flow of real, usable EM energy from the vacuum. Say what? What is he talking about here? The field of

Re: Breakeven for a wet-electrolysis CF cell

2006-01-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Edmund Storms wrote: Stephen, I would like to suggest that the electrolytic cell will never be used to make commercial heat because it operates at too low a temperature and is not stable. Commercial application will, I predict, involve gas loading. Consequently, such calculations have no us

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
In C.G. (Guy)  Suits' 1930s experiments with hydrogen arcs he noted that "even at atmospheric pressure the arc had an extremely small cross section. It was, in fact, no larger than an arc in a nitrogen atmosphere subjected to pressures greater than 1500 pounds per square inch. ("a 10 ampere arc

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Tom Bearden Sez.     "The point is that any charge produces a continuous flow of real, usable EM energy from the vacuum.  Thermodynamically we are describing a nonequilibrium steady-state (NESS) system, and such a system is permitted to continuously emit energy (received from its environment). T

Re: OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS vs BETA AETHER

2006-01-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
The CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics gives the H - H bond energy of 498,000 Joules per mole (119,000 cal/gram mole) or 472 BTU/gram mole.   Conspiracy, Frank?  :-)   Fred   http://www.cheniere.org/misc/a_h%20reaction.htm   " 109,000 cal./gram mole equals 432.6 BTU/gram mole--- roughly the he