Re: Off Topic: Analysis - what does that word mean?

2006-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Hmmm Your thinking is retentive. My thinking is constipated. ;-) Harry Jones Beene wrote: > QED > > > > From: Harry Veeder > Analysis - what does that word mean? > >>> Would it be mean... (or just average) to say this article leads >>> one to the conclusion that 'analysis' requires

NEW ENERGY TIMES (tm) JAN. 10, 2006 -- Issue #14

2006-01-09 Thread Steven Krivit
Your best source for cold fusion news and information. Jan. 10, 2006 -- Issue #14  ISSUE #14 is available online at http://newenergytimes.com/news/NET14.htm   EDITORIALS AND OPINION 1.   From the Editor: Low-Energy Nuclear Transmutations Take Center Stage 2.   To the Editor NEWS & ANNOUNCE

Re: Off Topic: Analysis - what does that word mean?

2006-01-09 Thread Jones Beene
QED From: Harry Veeder Analysis - what does that word mean? Would it be mean... (or just average) to say this article leads one to the conclusion that 'analysis' requires a rather 'anal' predisposition? ;-) Not necessarily. At the site it says this: "The word Oanalysis¹ derives

Re: Off Topic: Analysis - what does that word mean?

2006-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones Beene wrote: > >> Analysis - what does that word mean? > > Would it be mean... (or just average) to say this article leads > one to the conclusion that 'analysis' requires a rather 'anal' > predisposition? > > > ;-) Not necessarily. At the site it says this: "The word Œanalysis¹ de

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Steven Krivit
George's work. Since Les Case is involved it is reasonable they are Who said Les Case is involved? Where's this information from? I'm quite surprised to hear that considering the nature of the last phone conversation I had with him. S

Fw: Mention of Cold Fusion

2006-01-09 Thread RC Macaulay
Jed and Vorts,   - Original Message - From: RC Macaulay To: editor Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: Mention of Cold Fusion Reference: "Barely a Drop of Fraud" by Bettyann Holtzmann Kevles, January 8, 2006, p. B03.   Reporting that  cold fusion research has been " debu

Re: Please protest

2006-01-09 Thread John Coviello
I think it's worth a protest for the simple reason that it will make the newspaper aware that there actually is interest in cold fusion out there. It might even lead to a follow-up article. Actually, the mainstream press has been rather quiet about cold fusion recently. 2004 was a banner year

Re: Please protest

2006-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: >What email address to use? There are a number of them www.washpost.com/news_ed/news/contact_news.shtml>. Are you >suggesting letters to the editor for publishing? Goodness, there are a lot of addresses. Not sure. I send something yesterday to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but in

Re: Off Topic: Analysis - what does that word mean?

2006-01-09 Thread Jones Beene
Analysis - what does that word mean? Would it be mean... (or just average) to say this article leads one to the conclusion that 'analysis' requires a rather 'anal' predisposition?

Off Topic: Analysis - what does that word mean?

2006-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Analysis - what does that word mean? Is analysis dead or is a new analysis emerging? Harry - What follows has been copied from: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/analysis/index.html#4 See this link for complete text. - Analysis Analysis has always been at the

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
It's called the "Little Effect". It's the anthesis of the "Hutchison Effect". ;-) -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence But EarthTech never succeeds in reproducing anything, and it always turns out they've done the experiment so differently from the original that there was no

Re: D2Fusion Library

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
Must be so. I'm not a lert; but, figgered it out anyway. Btw, it's "Bwaaa, ha, ha . . ." -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell   Ha, ha. Alert users will figure out where the papers are. That is the beauty of the Internet.    - Jed   

Re: What's the story with light water CF, anyway?

2006-01-09 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" Also of interest is that H2O absorbs energy at 190, 200, 250, 300, and 400 nm wavelengths. Do you have a reference for these UV lines ? BTW the main cosmological frequencies used to spot water are the H2O vapor absorption peaks at arou

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: But EarthTech never succeeds in reproducing anything, and it always turns out they've done the experiment so differently from the original that there was no hope of its working ... right? Or do I have them mixed up with somebody? M

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Cool! That seems like the right direction to go. I confess I didn't see that on the web site -- it looked like the "solid state" talk all just had to do with any kind of fusion taking place within a metal

Re: Please protest

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I just uploaded a statement to the front page at LENR-CANR and to the news section: "The Washington Post attacks cold fusion, and ignores protests by researchers." I assume "several researchers" protested. If you have not already done so,

Re: What's the story with light water CF, anyway?

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
I continue to update . The following update may have some interest to anyone interested in the resonances of water. ENHANCING THE DC EFFECT It may be possible to enhance the effects of the interphase by stiumulating the water at natural r

Re: D2Fusion Library

2006-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all link back to lenr-canr.org, you'd think they would give some credit, eh?\ Ha, ha. Alert users will figure out where the papers are. That is the beauty of the Internet. - Jed

Uploaded Srinivasan review

2006-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: Srinivasan, M., Nuclear fusion in an atomic lattice: An update on the international status of cold fusion research. Curr. Sci., 1991. 60: p. 417, 39 pages. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Srinivasannuclearfus.pdf This was a lot of work to prepare. It has some interesting stuff about Fleischman

D2Fusion Library

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
Since: http://www.d2fusion.com/education/library.html all link back to lenr-canr.org, you'd think they would give some credit, eh? ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.nets

Re: The Powers that Be

2006-01-09 Thread Grimer
At 12:36 pm 09/01/2006 -0800, Jones wrote: > Frank, > > Nice post, and I am glad it is in the archive. > > However, trying to convince anyone that there is energy to be had > from exploding ice is like knocking one's head against a wall. I > have pretty much given up on the effort and await some

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Cool! That seems like the right direction to go. I confess I didn't see that on the web site -- it looked like the "solid state" talk all just had to do with any kind of fusion taking place within a metal lattice, which would inclu

D2Fusion Test Question

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
There might be some hints as to what the plans are at the 'position' page: http://d2fusion.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=26&; Itemid=53 or http://tinyurl.com/d9dxg for an "Energy Science Technician". Also, there is an odd question request at the bottom: "Include in c

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: If George can get the additional outside financing in order to satisfy the terms of the deal, then he becomes a stockholder in SEL to the tune of _at_ _least_ 2 million shares of their stock. Since their stock is probably currently w

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: If so, then in order to produce an over-unity device, which is necessary if it's to produce usable power, they need to operate it above the thermodynamic breakevent point. Given the excess heat as a fractio

Re: The Powers that Be

2006-01-09 Thread Jones Beene
Frank, Nice post, and I am glad it is in the archive. However, trying to convince anyone that there is energy to be had from exploding ice is like knocking one's head against a wall. I have pretty much given up on the effort and await some financial windfall like winning the lottery so that I

RE: Rupert Sheldrake

2006-01-09 Thread Rick Monteverde
Lots of that about. Try www.panspermia.com - R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:57 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Rupert Sheldrake OK, You caught me p.ssing about and dossing today. Here's a semi serious one:

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: If so, then in order to produce an over-unity device, which is necessary if it's to produce usable power, they need to operate it above the thermodynamic breakevent point. Given the excess heat as a fraction of 1, that implies a tem

Re: Heim Theory: A Real Warp Drive

2006-01-09 Thread Merlyn
Actually, the whole 'warp' thing is a side effect of his original theory. During the 50's Heim began working on reconciling relativity and quantum mechanics. In order to do so he came up with an 8-dimensional universe, but later discarded 2 of the dimensions (Droescher reinstated those 2 dropped

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Steven Krivit wrote: As far as I can tell there is, as yet, no D2fusion "technology". I was not clear here. By "technology" I meant something that is potentially salable (to someone other than another researcher). Of course Russ George has "technology" as well as a great deal of knowle

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Steven Krivit
As far as I can tell there is, as yet, no D2fusion "technology". There is hype, there are high hopes, there is a web site, there are descriptions of the evidence that the CF effect is real, but there's no hint that they've got a real, useful device in prototype or even on the drawing boards

Re: OT: more humour

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
Tickets on Virgin Galactic are presently available for $200,000. -Original Message- From: R.O.Cornwall Just how many billion dollar terrorists are out there? ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Yo

Re: Rupert Sheldrake

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, You caught me p.ssing about and dossing today. Here's a semi serious one: They imply that there is a genetic mechanism other than sexual selection. This one is going on about smoking knocking off methyl groups on DNA and the effects persisting for generations. Soun

Rupert Sheldrake

2006-01-09 Thread R . O . Cornwall
OK, You caught me p.ssing about and dossing today. Here's a semi serious one: They imply that there is a genetic mechanism other than sexual selection. This one is going on about smoking knocking off methyl groups on DNA and the effects persisting for generations. Sounds like Sheldrake's acquired

OT: more humour

2006-01-09 Thread R . O . Cornwall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4589072.stm Just how many billion dollar terrorists are out there? I think they been watching Moonraker. Better get James Bond in orbit then. I would have thought it a statement of the bleeding obvious: er, principal of school, er, terrorists need not apply to

Please protest

2006-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
I just uploaded a statement to the front page at LENR-CANR and to the news section: "The Washington Post attacks cold fusion, and ignores protests by researchers." I assume "several researchers" protested. If you have not already done so, please send a short message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread hohlrauml6d
SLRE, currently trading at 79 cents: http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SLRE with a daily volume less than 100,000 shares. Has been as high as about $1.30 in the past year. It was at about $17 in '98. Solar power in the Pacific Northeast?!? What killed them? US failure to sign the

Re: OT: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread leaking pen
ha.  i love that old joke.  was first told to me by an apache that was simply called grandfather by everyone, even MY grandfather, about 10-15 years back.  he loved the reaction of people that would laugh, start to stop thinking it might be offensive, then break up again. On 1/9/06, Grimer <[EMAI

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Correction: Looks like the money is all about Russ George, a one time vortex-l contributor. Looks like he doesn't get paid his $2M purchase price unless the company performs in *5* years. See the 8-K:

Re: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread RC Macaulay
Hi Remi, Perhaps misplaced, never lost . Richard - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: global warming humour As they say, irony is lost on Americans. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: OT: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread Grimer
At 01:42 pm 09/01/2006 -, Reme wrote: ... >Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are >you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" > >"Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going >to be one of the coldest winter

RE: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread R . O . Cornwall
As they say, irony is lost on Americans. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RC Macaulay Sent: 09 January 2006 15:48 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: global warming humour Hi Remi, Depends on the tribe. A few tribes in Africa lacked the ca

Re: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread RC Macaulay
Hi Remi, Depends on the tribe. A few tribes in Africa lacked the canny skills of our aborigines and wound up digging gold to pave the streets of the Swiss. The Mescalero Apaches near Ruidoso New Mexico have 'No Problemo". They own Sierra Blanco mountain, the timber, the ski lodge and the whole n

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: Correction: Looks like the money is all about Russ George, a one time vortex-l contributor. Looks like he doesn't get paid his $2M purchase price unless the company performs in *5* years. See the 8-K: Does that make

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
Correction: Looks like the money is all about Russ George, a one time vortex-l contributor. Looks like he doesn't get paid his $2M purchase price unless the company performs in *5* years. See the 8-K: Does that make sense, or am I reading t

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:46 AM, thomas malloy wrote: Vortexians; The discussion about the CEO job offer has gotten me thinking about the viability of the proposed technology. For a combination of reasons, I assume that various LENR technologies are real. First of all

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
Looks like the money is all about Russ George, a one time vortex-l contributor. Looks like he doesn't get paid his $2M purchase price unless the company performs in a couple years. See the 8-K: Horace Heffner

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
thomas malloy wrote: Vortexians; The discussion about the CEO job offer has gotten me thinking about the viability of the proposed technology. For a combination of reasons, I assume that various LENR technologies are real. First of all, there is the standard LENR's produced by a P F cell,

Re: thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:46 AM, thomas malloy wrote: Vortexians; The discussion about the CEO job offer has gotten me thinking about the viability of the proposed technology. For a combination of reasons, I assume that various LENR technologies are real. First of all, there is the standard L

OT: humour, programmer or serial killer

2006-01-09 Thread R . O . Cornwall
http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ ... Website http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1 ...

OT: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread R . O . Cornwall
It was October, and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a Chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like. Neve

thoughts about D2fusion technology

2006-01-09 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; The discussion about the CEO job offer has gotten me thinking about the viability of the proposed technology. For a combination of reasons, I assume that various LENR technologies are real. First of all, there is the standard LENR's produced by a P F cell, then there is the Patap