Patrick,
My post was prompted by my interest in anecdotal evidence of the
functioning of the Joe cell. There is a school of thought that
it is 'merely' an ultra-efficient low voltage electrolysis cell
However, such a theory is at odds with reports of the
actual physical functioning of t
To recap a bit. The distilled water in the 12 wall-plate cell (12 volt 10 floated plates)
gave a reading of about 2 milliamperes, adding a small amount of
baking soda (NaHCO3) boosted the current to about 20 milliamperes which
figures since no matter the amount of NaHCO3 in solution
the pH lock
Great piccy of Robert with his WC Fields nose. ;-)
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/629/1
Terry
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Patrick,
Whilst I continue to enjoy the theoretical banter which drew me
here in the first place, it does seem a shame not to draw upon
the group's collective expertise to attempt to produce something
practical.
There have been some good practical ideas for improvement of the
basic cell -
[Apologies for the quoting - required context]
> Jones wrote:
>
> One does not necessarily need to believe in the
> present objective proof of a crude device like the
> Joe-Cell to further investigate what is going on. It
[snip]
> The fact that a particular device, like a few of these
> cells, has
Steve:
Are you going to try to bring up cold fusion at this meeting?
Will you be distributing fliers or books? If so, I will send you a
flyer for LENR-CANR.org, in Word format. Please print some copies.
Maybe other people here can suggest literature to be distributed,
such as Beaudette's boo
June 1, 2006
Dear Readers,
We wish to bring to your attention the National Energy Symposium, the
first in a series of six such events that will be featured throughout the
U.S. and sponsored by leading academic institutions such as Caltech and
University of Southern California with the John
Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Hot fusion little-known secret
>
>
>> Harry Veeder wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that would be enough to power a few L.E.D s.
>>
>> I do not see how this would be any different from poweri
Mike Carrell wrote:
Furthermore, the LED's will respond to the total heat released in
the cell, not the "excess heat" which is critical.
Yup. That was my point.
As Jed points out, the Seeback calorimeter is a precision
quantitative device, and the LED's are not. So, the LEDs would prove
no
Speaking of both... ... in the early days of CF, Keith Johnson
at MIT proposed a number of different chemical process (at least
3) involving either nickel or palladium and an "active lattice"
rather than real fusion, to account for the excess heat being seen
(seen everywhere but at his alma ma
- Original Message -
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hot fusion little-known secret
Harry Veeder wrote:
I suspect that would be enough to power a few L.E.D s.
I do not see how this would be any different from powering a Seebeck
calorimeter, which is essenti
Walter writes:
>I don't propose turning science over to magicians, much less priests.
Yet that is where we are at now.
There is only one science that I know of. It is learning through experience
and mistake. There is no other. When I wrote earlier of doing the
Ohsawa carbon arc experiment, I di
Harry Veeder wrote:
I suspect that would be enough to power a few L.E.D s.
I do not see how this would be any different from powering a Seebeck
calorimeter, which is essentially a collection of thermoelectric
devices that capture as much heat as possible from the sample.
- Jed
Based on the work of Thiel and Madey, on "auto-dissociation" of water on metal surfaces
I vote for the latter.
http://www.physics.rutgers.edu/~wchen/Madey_page/Full_Publications/PDF/madey_SSR_1987_T.pdf
THE INTERACIION OF WATER WITH SOLID SURFACES: FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS
http://jlnlabs.
NRG is jargon for ENERGY, John.
For electrolysis of water, you might start here:
http://www.science-projects.com/Electrolysis/eLysis.htm#start
Molar Solutions:
http://www.coscosci.com/lab/test_solns.htm
"The molecular weight of a sodium chloride molecule (NaCl) is 58.44, so one gram-molec
Grimer wrote..
>On the subject of O2 enrichment, has anyone ever analysed the
output of the Ranque-Hilsch Vortex tube to see if the oxygen/nitrogen ratio
is the same for the cold stream as for the hot stream?
Howdy Frank..
Excellent question. Good thought. We just happen to be playing
Michel Jullian wrote:
>
> Nice! How much does a used unit cost roughly Fred, and what's the valving
> system and the "pressure swing" for?
>
You can shop on the web for "Oxygen Concentrators".that go from
$450.00 and up, but a medical oxygen supplier might let you
have an oldie for a few bars of "
Dear Vortex,
As a new can you please let us know what NRG means?
Is it possible, Please, to define acronyms when they are first used in any given text?
On the topic of cold fusion:
Please let us all know if the following is correct... and if not, can someone please yield a pre
Blowing O2 over the cathode of a water electrolysis cell allows
simultaneous production of OH at the anode and cathode.
Or you can shut off the O2 and produce H2 at the cathode
and OH at the anode.
Simultaneous HO-OH (~ 80% Hydrogen Peroxide) decomposition
and H2 combustion makes an attractiv
Nice! How much does a used unit cost roughly Fred, and what's the valving
system and the "pressure swing" for? If it is just a sieve letting smaller
molecules through as they describe a simple bleeding of the O2-depleted air
should work shouldn't it? (that's the way reverse osmosis systems work)
>
> I think Fred has a device that enriches O2 based upon > some form of filtration. Perhaps he can enlighten us > as to the details of its operation and perhaps a > patent number?>
You can buy used PSA (Pressure Swing Absorption) Medical Oxygen Concentrators
for a song. The O2 is usually ~ 95%
At 08:30 am 01/06/2006 +1000, Robin wrote:
> [snip]
> I think Fred has a device that enriches O2 based upon
> some form of filtration. Perhaps he can enlighten us
> as to the details of its operation and perhaps a
> patent number?
On the subject of O2 enrichment, has anyone ever analysed
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