Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Michel Jullian
Ah but this is different, for fire prevention you are concerned about Joule heating of the wire, this is resistive heating by definition, so what matters is current in the wire. The load could be perfectly reactive ie consume 0 W and still provoke Joule heating of the wire. So wire size depends

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to jonfli's message of Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:18:22 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Since I'm not involved in any type of plasma electrolysis and the [snip] >Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but the typical electrolysis cells >appear to be most nearly "resistive" relative to their waveforms with ve

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:44:44 +0200: Hi Michel, [snip] >0.5E-10 x 1/200 = 0.25E-12 = 250E-15, OK but may I suggest fm rather than "F" >(symbol for Farad) ...also the symbol for Fermi ( 1E-15 m). > >I recall reading that muon catalyzed fusion couldn't produce e

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Michel Jullian Also there is no such thing as reactive heating, by definition. <><><><><><> Thank you. I appreciate hearing the voice of sanity. The NFPA has insisted that KVA be used in calculating the conductor size for the NEC in lieu of KW. Absolute

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Michel Jullian
Robin wrote: ... > Precisely. Outside the orbit of the shrunken electron, the Hydrino > is a neutral entity. In that respect it somewhat resembles a fat > neutron. However when tunneling into another nucleus, the shrunken > electron would usually be left behind, so the actual reaction > would be a

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Michel Jullian
"The Law of Electric Circuit", hilarious :) "...without this law it is impossible...", when you have no imagination that is, or when you have too much maybe? Never trust someone who makes up an ad hoc law of electricity to measure input power in an excess heat device :) Also there is no such t

Joe Cell Water Pretreatment

2006-06-06 Thread Patrick Vessey
The following has been gleaned from multiple (surprisingly consistent) sources - I've pointed out where there are differences of opinion. I'm sorry that it's not strictly narrative, but hopefully I've covered most of the ground. The aims of JC water pretreatment are getting the stuff that we don'

Re: SSE conference schedule

2006-06-06 Thread leaking pen
i was almost tempted to make a road trip of it until you said orem.  i hit a cow on a road trip in 96 about a mile south of there, pulled into town, stayed the night at a hotel, informed the local authorities about it, and was arrested for not reporting the collision at the time (1 am...)    yeah

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote. > > - Original Message - > From: "Frederick Sparber" > > > giving room for possibly heavier (* e-) particles than Ps- > > (Electronium) like 1864 or 3727 eV or so? The 53 MeV/c > > calculates to about 1.98 times electron rest mass. CRC gives the > > Muon mass as 105

[OT] The Words that Trigger Echelon

2006-06-06 Thread hohlrauml6d
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SSE conference schedule

2006-06-06 Thread William Beaty
The annual SSE conference is coming up. It's not to late to jump in a plane and go to Salt Lake City by thursday morning. (From Seattle a ticket is around $350, so I'm tempted myself.) Actually, the conference is about 45min south of Salt Lake City, at the Utah Valley State College in Orem.

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: "Frederick Sparber" giving room for possibly heavier (* e-) particles than Ps- (Electronium) like 1864 or 3727 eV or so? The 53 MeV/c calculates to about 1.98 times electron rest mass. CRC gives the Muon mass as 105.65837 +/- 0.34 MeV The 1864 or 37

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
It was a Panda in the book: http://tinyurl.com/zhobo Busted !

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones. I wrote: > > Yes, And Two possible end of Muon Decay Paths according to my 1991-1992 CRC > are e- ( neutrino e) (neutrino u) e+ e- and (e- e+ e-) with 53 Mev/c giving > room for possibly heavier (* e-) particles than Ps- (Electronium) like > 1864 or 3727 eV or so? The 53 MeV/c calculates t

We Must Be Gettin' Close

2006-06-06 Thread hohlrauml6d
The MIBs have attacked again: http://pesn.com/2006/06/02/9500276_Water_fuel_experimenter_threatened/ http://tinyurl.com/ncu58 Water Fuel Experimenter and Team Threatened Ken Rasmussen's research team has been working on a process that turns out to have similarities to the super-efficient elect

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene The owner pulls out his pocket dictionary and looks up koala. It say, "Marsupial. Eats shoots and leaves".   <><><><><><> It was a Panda in the book: http://tinyurl.com/zhobo http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592400876/002-7756518-1567225?v=gl

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Michel Jullian wrote: > The name is Jullian with an "a". Sorry, too much watermelon. > If by "incomptent" you mean "doesn't compute > well" yes that's what I "seemed to imply" ;-) > > BTW the fact that power is not equal to Iav*Vav in the general case (I'll let > you find an obvious example whe

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote: > > To clarify: > > > As posted a few months ago, the heavy isotope of oxygen: O-18 > > (18O) is far more ubiquitous in nature than many realize. It is > > 15 time more prevalent in natural water than is deuterium, for > > instance but the interesting part is that it is enric

Re: Two clean reactions LOL!

2006-06-06 Thread Mark Goldes
Jones, This triggered the best laugh I've had in awhile! Hilarious. The book for writers with that wonderful title is always on my wife's desk... Mark From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: Two clean reactions Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:26:09

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread jonfli
Since I'm not involved in any type of plasma electrolysis and the measurement of the resultant waveforms, I thought I would research various techniques by those that do. Below are quotes from a document titled " The Law of Electric Circuit" by Ph. M. Kanarev. "It appears from the analysis that

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
To clarify: As posted a few months ago, the heavy isotope of oxygen: O-18 (18O) is far more ubiquitous in nature than many realize. It is 15 time more prevalent in natural water than is deuterium, for instance but the interesting part is that it is eneriched naturally in biological life (osm

Tesla EV

2006-06-06 Thread hohlrauml6d
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/tesla_motors_cl.html Tesla Motors Closes $40M Round; Funding to Support Launch of Electric Sportscar 1 June 2006 Tesla Motors announced the completion of its $40 million Series C financing led by VantagePoint Venture Partners, one of the largest Clean

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" however probably more likely is:- Hy2 + O18 -> O16 + He4 + 16 MeV Sodden thought: this reaction in the context of the WasserCar. As posted a few months ago, the heavy isotope of oxygen: O-18 (18O) is far more ubiquitous in natur

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:05:58 +0200: Hi, BTW, previously I wrote:- [snip] >> Hy2 + O18 -> C12 + 2 He4 + 9 MeV [snip] however probably more likely is:- Hy2 + O18 -> O16 + He4 + 16 MeV Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Compet

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Battery shapes So is Naudin incomptent when it comes to calculating power output? (That is what Michel Jullien seem to imply.) I haven't followed this thread closely. In looking at other of Naudin's expe

Re: OT: the "LifeBox"

2006-06-06 Thread OrionWorks
Walter Faxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Who > will be the first to gain access to superintelligent machines (or > superintelligent meat or whatever), however they come to be? People with > money and power, probably via governments. Organized religious fanatics. >

Re: Hydroxide-Hydrate UltraCapacitor

2006-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> However, would it be helpful in the current context for me to provide a summary of the various (yes, there are more than one) water pre-treatment regimes proposed for the JC? The techniques are a tad more involved than Jones has previous

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Battery shapes > the instrument will calculate the instantnaeous power for each sample and integrate ***not average*** them to a true power measurement. They integrate over a time interval to get total en

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:05:58 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Hi Robin, I am not familiar with hydrino fusion concepts, any pointers welcome. > >The idea is that the hydrino nucleus (proton) can approach the target nucleus >close enough for fusion thanks to the screening eff

Re: Hydroxide-Hydrate UltraCapacitor

2006-06-06 Thread patrick
> Fred wrote: > > Build around (shield) your Hydroxide Hydrate negative ion > OH(H2O)- > with H3O+ and these water clusters,Jones. :-) I am sufficiently intrigued to see where Fred and Jones go with this to suggest that I hold fire on posting any alternative JC theories for now, lest they prov

Re: Hydroxide-Hydrate UltraCapacitor

2006-06-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Build around  (shield) your Hydroxide Hydrate negative ion OH(H2O)- with H3O+ and these water clusters,Jones. :-)   Water Clusters Article:   http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/19/10533     Trimer Pix:   http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/19/10533/F5     Pentamer Pix:   http://www.pnas.

Re: Battery shapes

2006-06-06 Thread Michel Jullian
The name is Jullian with an "a". If by "incomptent" you mean "doesn't compute well" yes that's what I "seemed to imply" ;-) BTW the fact that power is not equal to Iav*Vav in the general case (I'll let you find an obvious example where P is not zero whereas Iav or Vav is null, which would make

Re: OH(H2O) Water Clusters and Quasicrystals

2006-06-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/19/10533   "Water clusters: Untangling the mysteries of the liquid, one molecule at a time "   Abstract of Article: "Extensive terahertz laser vibration-rotation-tunneling spectra and mid-IR laser spectra have been compiled for several isotopomers of small

Re: Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Robin, I am not familiar with hydrino fusion concepts, any pointers welcome. The idea is that the hydrino nucleus (proton) can approach the target nucleus close enough for fusion thanks to the screening effect of it's closely orbiting electron? Michel - Original Message - From: "Ro

Two clean reactions

2006-06-06 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi, If we ever get to the point where we can make hydrinos small enough, (or collect small ones), then here are two nice clean fusion reactions based upon plentiful materials:- Hy + N15 -> C12 + He4 + 4.96 MeV (this is essentially the last step of the CNO reaction). The N15 isotope would need to