Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, as you point out so well, the killing of anyone on the other side started with WWII. This was done because it became possible to do, not because any attitude had changed. Although bombs can be better targeted, this does not mean anyone is trying to save noncombatants. The bombs are just m

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Edmund Storms wrote: The idea of good guys and bad guys in war is useless and distracting to what is actually happening. War is a means to gain power over others. War no longer makes a distinction between those who are fighting and those who are not. It "no longer" makes such a distinction?

Re: [Vo]: History of Electric Vehicles

2006-08-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote (in a private e-mail, but it seems okay to quote it here): >Also, gasoline was more expensive in 1910 than it is today. Interesting point. But electricity was relatively expensive too. Not sure how much. Also, the people who owned cars before 1918 were generally wealthy and p

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products aka: Why We Fight

2006-08-13 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
Original Message - From: "OrionWorks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products aka: Why We Fight "...solve the problem more elegantly and completely" The ultimate solution? Hasn't that been tried before? Practical answe

Re: [Vo]: [OT] Idiocy

2006-08-13 Thread Philip Winestone
Good point... Some things are just meant to be I guess... P. At 07:00 PM 8/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Guys, I started a simple thread about a new technology and everyone wants to spout their philosophies on the war. Please use this thread topic and not the one about Dean Kamen's fine inventi

[Vo]: [OT] Idiocy

2006-08-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Guys, I started a simple thread about a new technology and everyone wants to spout their philosophies on the war. Please use this thread topic and not the one about Dean Kamen's fine inventions. Thank you, Terry

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products aka: Why We Fight

2006-08-13 Thread Philip Winestone
Sorry - Kyle is doing such a good job that I hate to interrupt... But I see the use of the word "outrage" once again. The word "outrage" is probably one of the most prolific words in use these days, and frankly, I'm tired of it. If you (I assume), Kyle (permit me) or myself have a bone to pic

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products aka: Why We Fight

2006-08-13 Thread OrionWorks
Kyle, You can accuse me of not reading your previous post as thoroughly as you wish I had done. Perhaps there is some truth to that. So, you are a practical no-nonsense type of guy. I'm drawn to the following no-nonsense comments: > If you feel it will be productive to get in touch with > th

[Vo]: Fwd: Re: [Vo]: History of Electric Vehicles

2006-08-13 Thread Harry Veeder
--- Begin Message --- Also gasoline was more expensive in 1910 than it is today. Adjusting for inflation gasoline was $2.00/litre , compared to $1.00 /litre in Canada today. Harry   - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:23 pm Subject:

[Vo]: Re: Ho-Ho-Eco

2006-08-13 Thread Jones Beene
WHOA... A Drowsy Vo opined: > ... you are only going to use about penny's worth of power, not that dime, to get your liter of HO-OH... This is totally wrong. Sorry. Assumtions not valid. Back to the drawing board Jones

Re: [Vo]: History of Electric Vehicles

2006-08-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Electric cars fell out of favor when gasoline models began to routinely achieve speeds of 30 to 40 mph on ordinary roads. Electric cars could not keep up. Range was limited but that was not a problem back in 1910 because people seldom drove far. For a trip over 20 miles they would take the train

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-13 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: "OrionWorks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products I can sympathize with your sense of outrage. However, are you willing to acknowledge the sense of outrage that also exists on the other side

[Vo]: Ho-Ho-Eco

2006-08-13 Thread Jones Beene
To go 500 miles in a hybrid (Prius-type vehicle)... It would take about 11-12 gallons of gasoline ... or else ... 90 liters equivlqent of HTP - 90% pure HO-OH - which can be used to produce 5 kg of hydrogen, which has the same effective energy content in an ICE (after the gain in Carnot is accounte

[Vo]: Re: Ratio of solar to manmade energy

2006-08-13 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Robin, - Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Ratio of solar to manmade energy > In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:58:42 > +0200: > Hi, > [snip] >>That's what I sa

[Vo]: History of Electric Vehicles

2006-08-13 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.didik.com/ev_hist.htm Did you know that EVs were popular among women when ICE vehicles had hand cranked starters? Lots of piccys. Terry