Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Philip Winestone
H I didn't say that meaningful change only happens through violence. If you read that into my note, you're simply reading your own fantasies... When people say a "stable world" it could mean many things. I deliberately spoke about "scientific dogma," as this "scientific stability", i

[Vo]: George Got One

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Clooney that is: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-briefs17.2aug17,1,1776320.story?coll=la-headlines-business> http://tinyurl.com/gz6ya Terry

Re: [Vo]: Steorn.net

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's www.steorn.net Grimer is still on the international filter list. --- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:48:32 +0100 >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >From: Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorn.

Re: [Vo]: Message from Amini

2006-08-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:56:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Now, I would like to know how I could have this paper reviewed to >verify the claims in the paper. Please provide your advice. [snip] Perhaps the author doesn't consider Vortex to be an adequate review panel, but

Re: [Vo]: Steorn.net

2006-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Terry Blanton wrote: > On 8/18/06, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think it's www.steorn.net > > Yeah, it made Reuters: > > http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2006-0 > 8-17T231302Z_01_L17772156_RTRUKOC_0_US-TECHNOLOGY-ENERGY.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome

[Vo]: FW: [4DWorldx] FW: [Vo]: ethanol production

2006-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Forwarded from 4dworldx. Harry > Forwarded from Vortex-L > Harry > > >>> The amount of corn required to produce 25 gallons of ethanol can feed a >>> human >>> in the third world for a whole year. >> >> Thomas: >> True however, the story I heard, is that the ethanol production only >> consumes so

[Vo]: Message from Amini

2006-08-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
August 2, 2006 From: "f.amini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jed Rothwell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Cold Fusion- New Paper Dear Mr. Rothwell, I hope you are well. I have recently written a paper titled' "Cold Fusion by Jet Plasma Process in Hydro Machinery'" in 18 pages. The purpose of the

Re: [Vo]: Steorn.net

2006-08-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: On 8/18/06, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's www.steorn.net Yeah, it made Reuters: This is very sad. I do not understand the mindset of inventors who do this kind of thing, and say, ". . . until this thing is validated by science we won't be doing a

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Philip Winestone wrote: > The "stability" you talk about is the same kind of stability that you get > when dogma - scientific or otherwise - rules. It's the stability of the > grazing herd. Nothing of value is accomplished through this kind of > deadness. Propaganda. Do you think meaningful

Re: [Vo]: Steorn.net

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's www.steorn.net Yeah, it made Reuters: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2006-08-17T231302Z_01_L17772156_RTRUKOC_0_US-TECHNOLOGY-ENERGY.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-scienceNews-2 http://tinyurl.co

Re: [Vo]: What's The Deal With "Steorn"?

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/18/06, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, more like a Sprain Magmo. Here's the gist: > > http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/storn.jpg This should allow you to view the patent: http://tinyurl.com/h8po9 If that doesn't wo

Re: [Vo]: What's The Deal With "Steorn"?

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nope, more like a Sprain Magmo. Here's the gist: http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/storn.jpg This should allow you to view the patent: http://tinyurl.com/h8po9 Terry

Re: [Vo]: What's The Deal With "Steorn"?

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These Irish guys are claiming to have discovered "free energy" and have challenged the world by putting an ad in the Economist to evaluate their stuff. One of their patents is WO2006035419 but I can't get espace to open the document. Is this

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetron application to water vortex

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: True ... but just as all the clocks in a clock store line-up in phase, on their own (like magic ?) one would expect microtrons, especially if wired in parallel, to do the same, no? Not really. The resonant frequency of the microwave cavity wi

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetron application to water vortex

2006-08-18 Thread Jones Beene
True ... but just as all the clocks in a clock store line-up in phase, on their own (like magic ?) one would expect microtrons, especially if wired in parallel, to do the same, no? - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetron application to water vortex

2006-08-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/18/06, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard, I think I mentioned this before in a private email, but one possible tactic for what you want to do is to set up two standing waves in your vortex chamber, which overlap. There should be a focusing effect in the overlapping nodes of th

[Vo]: Steorn.net

2006-08-18 Thread Zell, Chris
I think it's www.steorn.net

[Vo]: What's The Deal With "Steorn"?

2006-08-18 Thread Zell, Chris
These Irish guys are claiming to have discovered "free energy" and have challenged the world by putting an ad in the Economist to evaluate their stuff. One of their patents is WO2006035419 but I can't get espace to open the document. Is this a version of Bearden's MEG all over again?

[Vo]: Re: Magnetron application to water vortex

2006-08-18 Thread Jones Beene
Richard,   I think I mentioned this before in a private email, but one possible tactic for what you want to do is to set up two standing waves in your vortex chamber, which overlap. There should be a focusing effect in the overlapping nodes of the standing waves.   Lets say you are using two

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Nick Palmer wrote: In the sixties the opposition used to say "my country, right or wrong - when right, to be kept right - when wrong, to be put right". The 1860s, you mean. That is a quote from Carl Schurz (1829-1906), a German revolutionary, a U.S. reformer and a Union general in the Civil W

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Nick Palmer
Philip Winestone wrote:- <<"...accurate TV portrayal of the base character of too many Americans..." Now there's an interesting oxymoron - "accurate TV portrayal". You need to get out and see life a little more.>> The sister of my step son's wife has just come out of the British Army after se

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Philip Winestone
"Currently, America and Israel are the greatest threats to world stability with China a fair way behind. Elements of power in both America and Israel have still got this "Us first, and only us" mentality." So if the Israelis had lit a big bonfire and destroyed their arms in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1

[Vo]: Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Nick Palmer
Kyle - read John Berry's post. Be ashamed of being American. If you're not, then it is people like you who are the problem that needs solving. Kyle wrote:- <> America only really came in when it seemed as if there might be a threat to them (the Japanese), not earlier when they were asked by t

Re: [Vo]: Re: Air Independent Closed Cycle Diesel

2006-08-18 Thread Frederick Sparber
Robin wrote: > > they used it to power torpedos > Is there any difference between a HOOH powered torpedo or cruise missile,  and a modified 57 Chevy zipping along at 90 miles per hour, Robin ?    Fred        

Re: [Vo]: Re: Air Independent Closed Cycle Diesel

2006-08-18 Thread Frederick Sparber
OTOH, would it be simpler to use the non-condensible O2 as the working fluid, vent excess O2, and save the condensate in a holding tank? I haven't figured out yet what happens with steam when it's compressed at a 10-22 to 1 compression ratio which puts it at temperatures above the critical point.

Re: [Vo]: [OT] Strong UN (was Re: New Segway Products)

2006-08-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:30:33 +0200: Hi, [snip] >(Robin your reply was private, but considering the contents I assume it's ok >to answer on-list) > >Good point, but even so don't you think it would be a better solution than >letting the fighting parties, who a

Re: [Vo]: Magnetron application to water vortex

2006-08-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to RC Macaulay's message of Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:36:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] >BlankHowdy Vorts, > >We have made several modifications to our test setup and can produce a very >stable eyewall in the water vortex. Suggestions made regarding applying a pair >of magnetrons aimed at the vortex ha

Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

2006-08-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to John Steck's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:23:16 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Iraq is nothing more than *basic* military positioning to protect energy >interests in the region. Period. Anyone who wants to make it anything more >than that is either ignorant, naive, or a self-loathing masochist