Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:09:11 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Zachary Jones wrote:
Know who at U of M?
Zak
Da! If I knew who he was, I'd look him up.
Richard wrote;
Not hard to run into lotsa people like this at meetings but where's
The problem is that Comsol Multiphysics costs like $10 000. Has anyone here
worked with free FEM software like OpenFEM or FOI Edge?
David
On 4/5/07, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm forwarding the following link to Vortex.
Electrochemistry and Electrostatics and Magnetostatics are
On 4/4/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With a little bit of luck, we'll have commercial fusion power by then, and they
will have closed down altogether.
With which technology?
Terry
Robin wrote..
With a little bit of luck, we'll have commercial fusion power by then, and
they
will have closed down altogether.
With which technology?
Terry
Howdy Vorts,
Year 2010, provided it arrives on time is only 2 1/2 years off. The USA,
provided it makes it another 2 1/2 years,
Jones Beene quotes someone:
Valcent has extrapolated data from its test bed facility to conclude
that production yields of up to 150,000 gallons (3,570 barrels) of
bio-oil per acre per year are possible at a cost of about $20 per barrel.
Oh come now, that's absurd. Let us have a reality
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Oh come now, that's absurd. Let us have a reality check here please!
Let's assume the system is a black hole that absorbs every joule of
sunlight and converts it into oil.
1 acre = 4,047 m^2.
Your logical error here --and it invalidates your whole argument is the
Jones Beene wrote:
Your logical error here --and it invalidates your whole argument is
the assumption that algae are merely converting sunlight into energy. Wrong.
Or should I say partially wrong. Sunlight is a catalyst for growth
and is advantageous, but single-cell life will proliferate in
Jones Beene wrote:
Since Peoria has a river (the Illinois) which has plenty of
'nutritious' water (i.e. funky, which algae love), and if the plant
has a few thousand acres of buffer, or can buy an adjoining farm,
then perhaps at least one thousand can be put into algae farming.
I believe it
I wrote:
It is waste heat from coal, which is ~60% to ~70% of the starting
heat. Assume the plants convert 10% of that heat back into carbon
compounds, which would be phenomenally good. That 6% the waste heat.
6% of the starting heat, I mean.
A 6% improvement in coal plant production would
The photo in photosynthesis means photonic but heat (IR) is also
photonic and heat has been totally neglected in your argument.
It has been over two years since photosynthesis experts from Arizona
State University found and documented photosynthesis taking place deep
within the Pacific
Now, here is a good paper -- which I hope is
technically accurate -- that explains a lot about
photosynthesis and plant efficiency:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/103/14/5251
David A. LaVan and Jennifer N. Cha, Approaches
for biological and biomimetic energy conversion, PNAS
QUOTES:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I believe it would take more like 10,000 acres ... Farmland
in Illinois costs between $3,000 and $5,000... so this would
be a $40 million investment for the land alone, processing
equipment would bring the cost up to $140 to $200 million.
That is probably fairly accurate
I wrote:
Actually, with heat alone and no photosynthesis, you might pull this
off with less than 1000 acres.
This is inaccurate, as Beene noted. It should say:
With IR photosynthesis alone, and no sunlight photosynthesis, you
might pull this off with less than 1000 acres.
I wonder if it
Jed Rothwell wrote:
With IR photosynthesis alone, and no sunlight photosynthesis, you might
pull this off with less than 1000 acres.
The conceptual problem that all of us have - when comparing single cell
life with agriculure is that the two are radically different in a few
vital
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:10:16 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On 4/4/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With a little bit of luck, we'll have commercial fusion power by then, and
they
will have closed down altogether.
With which technology?
The one I'm
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:40:53 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
That makes sense for an electric power plant, where the cost of capital
equipment is well known, but not much sense for e.g. CRUDE OIL/GASOLINE, where
the cost can the calculated any of a
Robin wrote..
With a little bit of luck, we'll have commercial fusion power by then,
and they
will have closed down altogether.
Terry asked...
With which technology?
Robin replied..
The one I'm designing right now. :)
Howdy Vorts..
Better ask Japan Inc. before you spend too much money
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