Re: [Vo]:[VO]"OT: Truss bridge collapse

2007-08-08 Thread Standing Bear
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 23:09, R.C.Macaulay wrote: > Not a pretty picture. One note, officials have denied that the > > resurfacing of the bridge had anything to do with the failure; so, you > > know what *that* probably means. > Terry wrote, > Nope, it had absolutely nothing to do with the f

Re: [Vo]:Only potential differences matter (was Re: Deflation Fusion)

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
Sorry about sending the duplicate uncommented post! Just a sign of my increasing senility. On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:18 PM ... I certainly don't agree it is n

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Standing Bear
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 15:15, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones Beene wrote: > > >Wiki sez: Sirhan was hypnotized in prison by Dr. Bernard Diamond, > >who simply instructed Sirhan to climb the bars of his cage like a monkey. > > > >He did so. After the trance was removed, Sirhan was shown tapes of

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift? the Bourne hypothesis mind control

2007-08-08 Thread Standing Bear
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 14:28, Jones Beene wrote: > Standing Bear wrote: > > > And how about Sirhan Sirhan, whose name seems to have escaped from an episode of 'Dr Who'! I rest my case. > > Having recently seen the latest Bourne flick ... thus making me an > instant expert on CIA miscreant

Re: [Vo]:[VO]"OT: Truss bridge collapse

2007-08-08 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Not a pretty picture. One note, officials have denied that the resurfacing of the bridge had anything to do with the failure; so, you know what *that* probably means. Terry wrote, Nope, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the bridge was being resurfaced: Howdy Terry, I looked

RE: [Vo]:Only potential differences matter (was Re: Deflation Fusion)

2007-08-08 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
A question I've wondered about, though. Surely at some very high positive voltage the total number of negatively charged electrons available would be depleted, so charge is really absolute. What's wrong with that reasoning? -Original Message- From: Michel Jullian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Vo]:Now It's Getting Serious

2007-08-08 Thread Terry Blanton
When ethanol as fuel effects my filet: http://www.nysun.com/article/60032 Terry

Re: [Vo]:[VO]"OT: Truss bridge collapse

2007-08-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/5/07, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The MnDOT critical inspection report of the failed structure is available > here: > > http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/I-35_Insp_Rpt.pdf > > Not a pretty picture. One note, officials have denied that the > resurfacing of the bridge had anyth

Re: [Vo]:Only potential differences matter (was Re: Deflation Fusion)

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:18 PM ... I certainly don't agree it is necessarily the field that counts in Fig. 1 when it comes to electron fugacity. Referring to Fi

[Vo]:Only potential differences matter (was Re: Deflation Fusion)

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:18 PM ... > I certainly don't agree it is necessarily the field that counts in > Fig. 1 when it comes to electron fugacity. Referring to Fig. 1 > again, if the "++" electrode is at +1,

Re: [Vo]:"active CR-39" was: Electron fugacity

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
OK - this seems to be getting somewhere closer to alternatively explaining the SPAWAR CR-39 tracks - ...and [in the event that the hydrino is real] the result of the faux-n approach to any nucleus in the plastic - which hydrinos are too large to cause a transmutation, and as Robin says, they w

Re: [Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
I wrote: "In ordinary electrolysis the flow directions seem to me to be wrong. At the interface the hydrogen hops toward a free electron and things stop right there. The diffusion is then essentially through combined motion of the hydrogen and its ionically bound electron. When diffusion

Re: [Vo]:schauberger vortexes

2007-08-08 Thread Esa Ruoho
wud this do? http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Vortex http://del.icio.us/esaruoho/schauberger http://implosion-ev.de/html/online-patente.html On 09/08/07, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vortexians; > > Some

[Vo]:schauberger vortexes

2007-08-08 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; Someone has posted several links on the use of Schauberger vortexes to do things like purify water and generate hydropower. I've been trying to find them using search engines. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Jones Beene wrote: [snip dimensional stuff I don;t understand] no "two-timing cheater" puns please Aw shucks. HH: In any case, Mills is pretty late in coming to market. He seems to be joining a long line of failures. Something better is needed, or at

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may stand corrected, but has it not been shown that all people (animals included, which we are) want to receive praise and reward? Going back to Pavlov, one might think that if someone was conditioned to believe that they were to be rewarded by doing something that

Re: [Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:07 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - F

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
dhutis5347 wrote: >Some people believe that hypnotic suggestibility correlates with >submissiveness and a willingness to follow orders. I do not know if >there is evidence for this. My guess is that there isn't. > I may stand corrected, but has it not been shown that all people (animals include

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread dhutis5347
> >Some people believe that hypnotic suggestibility correlates with >submissiveness and a willingness to follow orders. I do not know if >there is evidence for this. My guess is that there isn't. > I may stand corrected, but has it not been shown that all people (animals included, which we are)

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Wiki sez: Sirhan was hypnotized in prison by Dr. Bernard Diamond, who simply instructed Sirhan to climb the bars of his cage like a monkey. He did so. After the trance was removed, Sirhan was shown tapes of his actions. He insisted that he "acted like a monkey" of his own

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of

2007-08-08 Thread dhutis5347
> >1) 3-space + time (Heisenberg assumption) or >2) 2-space + time (Mills assumption) there is (could be) >3) 2-space + 2-time (alternative QM time dimensional variable) > There is another view out there. A vort member has done a number of lectures on 2-space +0 time. I did get in on part of one a

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/8/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, no one on Vortex believes in such things as secret mind > control projects, like MKUltra - do you? You think I LIKE wearing aluminum clothes?

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Standing Bear wrote: A party in power for a long and unchallenged time grows sloppy. Look at the seemingly unlikely crew of 'Lee Harvey Oswald and his assassin Jack Ruby'. These were from 'central casting as well. I do not believe one word of the conspiracy theories surrounding the Kennedy

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
Standing Bear wrote: And how about Sirhan Sirhan, whose name seems to have escaped from an episode of 'Dr Who'! I rest my case. Having recently seen the latest Bourne flick ... thus making me an instant expert on CIA miscreants and the "brainwashing" training which they receive, let me add

[Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion > > On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:07 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Nonsense. It is a fundamental principle. Not nonsense at all to my thinking, nor fundamental. Many others better equipped to argue this point believe that it is both subjective, arbitrary and of little substantive val

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
One point not adequately expressed is that the Heisenberg POV is totally grounded in three dimensions, whereas Mills OS (orbitsphere) is defined as two dimensional only . Big difference. Even so, I am not sure that Mills got this exactly right, but to understand that even more remote reservati

Re: [Vo]:Can the MIBs stop a Paradigm shift?

2007-08-08 Thread Standing Bear
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 10:33, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mark S Bilk wrote: > > >Do you mean like whoever killed Stanley Meyer and Gene Mallove? > > Meyer was killed by a stoke. Mallove was killed by Gary McAvoy, a > drug-addicted criminal. He looks like a thug from central casting; see: > > http

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: Nonsense. It is a fundamental principle. Not nonsense at all to my thinking, nor fundamental. Many others better equipped to argue this point believe that it is both subjective, arbitrary and of little substantive value: "We have seen that the Heisenberg uncertaint

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 6:38 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: This is just another "welcher weg" experiment. Spin flipping is a statistical observational event not a continuum event where a particle is "rolled over" in a Newtonian fashion. Still it is not alone - and is one of man

[Vo]:Classic quote from Amory Lovins

2007-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
"If you ask me, it'd be a little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it. We ought to be looking for energy sources that are adequate for our needs, but that won't give us the excesses of concentrated energy with which

Re: [Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:07 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: [Vo]:Deflation Fusion FWIW, recent notes on cathode design based on inflation fusion "deflation fusion" you mean

Re: [Vo]:The meaning of "in"

2007-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: This is just another "welcher weg" experiment. Spin flipping is a statistical observational event not a continuum event where a particle is "rolled over" in a Newtonian fashion. Still it is not alone - and is one of many situation where Heisenberg is not helpful. Heise

Re: [Vo]:Re: More speculations regarding deflation fusion cathode design

2007-08-08 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:43 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Horace it seems your latest ASCII drawings get folded over to 72 characters width at some point of the trip from your machine to mine and possibly others, here is below an exact copy/paste of what I received: OK, my apologies for the mes

[Vo]:Re: Corona charging to electroplate a dielectric? (was Re: A MSWL hypothesis...)

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Jullian
Right, but then the plating back side is a Ni alloy, not pure Pd as in my speculative technique :) But it might be interesting to try such a coating (well known, used e.g. to metallize the plated through holes in printed circuit boards), since Ni is also known as a CF active material, and to fr

[Vo]:Re: Deflation Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: [Vo]:Deflation Fusion > FWIW, recent notes on cathode design based on inflation fusion "deflation fusion" you mean, you named it thus in reference to wave function c

[Vo]:Re: More speculations regarding deflation fusion cathode design

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Jullian
Horace it seems your latest ASCII drawings get folded over to 72 characters width at some point of the trip from your machine to mine and possibly others, here is below an exact copy/paste of what I received: Figure 3 is yet another verison of the all gas phase back side cell. . g