[Vo]:wave of life

2007-09-09 Thread thomas malloy
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Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
It looks like the metal-metal junction can be nicely engineered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_electrode_potential_%28data_page %29 http://www.mpoweruk.com/chemistries.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_affinity Some numbers: El. S.E.P Elec.AFF. Au -0.60 223 Zn -0.76 0 Pb -

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Jones Beene
Horace > Ah yes, it's that sometimes delusional pre-experiment glow I must be feeling! Problem is - I don't see this working more robustly than the old Clarendon dry pile without getting down to "nano" tolerances, and possibly to exotic materials. This puts thorough experimentation beyond

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
Jones, I think we may be at the tip of something really big. Ah yes, it's that sometimes delusional pre-experiment glow I must be feeling! Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
One reason H2 or OH or any xH dipole molecule should make a good transporter, provided its electron exchanges with the donor and acceptor work, is its size would probably change more than any larger molecules when electronated or de-eletronated. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hhef

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:39 AM, Jones Beene wrote: What am I missing about H2 that would be a negative in this role? Yes many materials are hydrided by contact but in a situation of low heat (!300 k), and using gold plating on the acceptor and a nitrided donor, then it would seem that the hy

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:39 AM, Jones Beene wrote: What am I missing about H2 that would be a negative in this role? Yes many materials are hydrided by contact but in a situation of low heat (!300 k), and using gold plating on the acceptor and a nitrided donor, then it would seem that the hy

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: OK - let's pile-it-on ... with ZPE Well, Jones, I think you sure came up with a winner idea this time! Well it seems we had the similar ideas almost simultaneously, but while we are on-a-roll ... and before the free-

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:39 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace, Excellent insight. One question though. You seem to be balking at H2 as the electron transport molecule of choice. This would be due to its high mobility, small size and mass and intermediate electron affinity (about halfway between

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: OK - let's pile-it-on ... with ZPE Well, Jones, I think you sure came up with a winner idea this time! Well it seems we had the similar ideas almost simultaneously, Actually it was a synchronicity of sorts. I had be

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Jones wrote.. What am I missing about H2 that would be a negative in this role? Yes many materials are hydrided by contact but in a situation of low heat (!300 k), and using gold plating on the acceptor and a nitrided donor, then it would seem that the hydride could be avoided. Anything else? H

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: OK - let's pile-it-on ... with ZPE Well, Jones, I think you sure came up with a winner idea this time! Well it seems we had the similar ideas almost simultaneously, but while we are on-a-roll ... and before the free-world is thrown into utter disarray on Tuesday ;-{

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, Excellent insight. One question though. You seem to be balking at H2 as the electron transport molecule of choice. This would be due to its high mobility, small size and mass and intermediate electron affinity (about halfway between a good donor and acceptor). What am I missing abou

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
If electronation of the transport molecule by tunneling at a distance can be achieved at the donor surface, then it avoids the Casimir force altogether there. There is no appreciable Casimir force at the donor surface, and no heat is lost to the departing transport molecule other than the e

[Vo]:Triboelectric metals

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
It is surprising that lead is a powerful electron donor, as powerful as "cat fur": http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_materials.htm Also noted as a weak donor is aluminum. This seems somewhat consistent with the electron affinity table: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_a

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-09 Thread Horace Heffner
I think an asymmetrical application of the Casimir force is indeed the free energy source to be engineered for the electron transport system. Here is how I think it works. When the (or at least a ZPE tapping) electron transport molecule takes on an extra electron it does so in a large orbi