In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>But even in Mills CQM when oxygen is active, if I am not mistaken, - it is the
>O++ catalyst and not the hydrino, which emits the excess energy.
In CQM, the O++ first absorbs 54 eV from the Hydrino, becoming
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:29:10 +:
Hi,
[snip]
>
>On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
>Check out the "snowball Earth" era(s) which occurred in
>the past. Glaciation was extreme, reaching all the way
>-- or nearly all the way -- to the Equ
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:02:40 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>I haven't seen any evidence this is true. My understanding is the
>ice melted due to vulcanism changing the albedo by depositing dust on
>the ice. If this happened then there would be no CO2 overshoot.
>
[sni
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:49:11 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>
>On Sep 8, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>>
>> If the oceans were to boil off, where would all the water to go?
>
>Same place it went on venus, into building a higher altitude more
>dense atmosph
A hydrino connection ?
One more thought on a hypothetical active "mechanism" in superthermite - and
other reactions which can produce more energy than what should be possible in
the chemical reaction of valence electrons.
This has been called a "supra-chemical" reaction, since the normal defin
Hi All,
Correction: I should have said
The Snowball Earth evidence is condensed at
http://www.avonhistory.org/hist/lakes8.htm#n3
Jack Smith
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Check out the "snowball Earth" era(s) which occurred in
the past. Glaciation was extreme, reaching all the way
-- or nearly all the way -- to the Equator. The Earth's
albedo went sky-high, as a result of which the "effective
insolation" rat
I wrote:
">>> Please note they concur with the NIST findings.
>>
>> And - you know this, how?
>
> I know this because I read Japanese newspapers and watch the NHK news."
To be accurate, this is more a case of the dog that has not barked.
Let me explain.
The Japanese blogosphere and tabloid magaz
Jed -
>> Chaos and complexity are two separate and unrelated characteristics.
Sorry, I may have misunderstood your point. You meant that the complexity of
a chaotic system's underlying structure versus the complexity of its range
of outputs is not related? Those two can be very divergent in dif
Rick Monteverde wrote:
A chaotic system could also be very complex and have relatively
simple and predictable outputs. The claim that the global climate
has those characteristics is false to a high degree of certainty
given historical records.
No one claims that the climate is simple or that
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
The immediate problem is passing the tipping point where the
methane is
released. Methane is 20 times more effective than CO2 at the
greenhouse
effect, and is lighter than air. It eventually oxidizes into CO2,
I'm not laughing! Smirking a little maybe, but...
Didn't I see something somewhere about Lizzies from planet #10 zapping us
with rays to warm us up, kinda like preheating the oven for dinner when they
arrive in 2012? Ok, forget the Lizard people if you want to, at your own
risk of course , but con
Jed -
>> Chaos and complexity are two separate and unrelated characteristics.
Well, they're separate anyway. A chaotic system could be very simple and
still have very complex outputs. Or it might have simple and much more
predictable outputs. Depends on the structure, but not necessarily the
comp
On Sep 8, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
If the oceans were to boil off, where would all the water to go?
Same place it went on venus, into building a higher altitude more
dense atmosphere.
Besides, there
is also the "evaporative cooler" effect. The faster the
hydrologi
>> This analogy is flawed. Predicting climate change in the future is
like predicting the overall trend of the market.
Predicting climate change in the future is like predicting the overall trend
of the market. This analogy is flawed.
- Rick
Steven -
No such insinuation was made or implied by me, but you go on and on as if I
had, leading inevitably to the conclusion that I don't know what I was
talking about, which of course discredits the position I have taken on this
issue. Is this what you call an intellectually honest discussion?
Again, repeating a snippet of Rick Monteverde's prior comment:
> ... But Horace, if you
> *know* that you *can* predict and even steer an immense
> chaotic system like planetary climate - please please
> pretty PLEEEASE email me your stock picks NOW!!!
I would second
I wrote:
"Also, I believe you are exaggerating the complexity of the
atmosphere. It is nowhere near as complex as, say, an ecosystem or a
living cell. The mechanisms by which DNA controls cells, and the
workings of the human brain, are perhaps the most complex phenomena
in the known universe.
At 05:51 AM 9/9/2008, Rick Monteverde wrote:
Horace -
If you don't think it's relevant, then you don't think you know exactly
what's driving it (and you'd be right), and therefore you couldn't possibly
know where it would go if you tried driving it yourself. But Horace, if you
*know* that you *c
Gosh, golly, gee guys, you mean to say you don't trust our guv'ment ? Anybody
in here ever serve in the military?
Ask ole Ben Franklin why they didn't trust the king, They wrote the
constitution to protect us from guv'ment, not the other way around. Don't trust
the guv'ment.. don't even think a
Nick -
>> Yes, I believe that "right" should be taken away. Responsibilities
outweigh rights.
We can debate and disagree and be sarcastic and so forth on a forum like
this. But to really declare for taking down the voices of dissent, you've
placed yourself in a very special category, and I promi
Horace -
If you don't think it's relevant, then you don't think you know exactly
what's driving it (and you'd be right), and therefore you couldn't possibly
know where it would go if you tried driving it yourself. But Horace, if you
*know* that you *can* predict and even steer an immense chaotic s
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:12:24 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>The immediate problem is passing the tipping point where the methane
>is released.
The tipping point is presumably when the temperature rises above zero deg C and
the ground starts to melt. Since the permafros
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