Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread James Bowery
The theoretic fecundity of Mr. Rose is enough to make MIT's patent lawyers weep as though Hagelstein walked through the door. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_charge > > I believe that this excess charge comes from the direct conv

Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_charge I believe that this excess charge comes from the direct conversion of heat (infrared light) into elections. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Axil, > > Would you explain what you mean by the violation of conservatio

Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread David Roberson
Axil, Would you explain what you mean by the violation of conservation of charge since Rossi only excites the particles with heat? What if his device separates the charges by some method so that the electrons leave the now positively charged central region? I once figured a way to extract

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: By “still” do you imply some kind of recent change ? … which is to say: do > you have information that Rossi has reneged on his arrangement with them? > I thought he said he is working with a major corporation. I have no knowledge than he reneged on anyone. I assumed Ampener

Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding the question: 2) Were the doubts/objections raised about the Tesla fields (in both this forum and elsewhere) considered before drafting the paper (and therefore double checked), or not considered important and drafted despite them? Have those objections been put to rest as far as you are

Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
While you are waiting for the authoritative answers from DGT if any, I will take the liberty to speculate on the answers that seem right to me (at this juncture). It is not possible to actually visualize what these subatomic structures are doing, but by using imagination, some new experimental pro

[Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread JohnMaguire
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 8:35:34 PM UTC-4, JohnMaguire wrote: > > Peter, Dr. Hadjichristos, >> > > Thank you for your efforts. Few questions/observations after reading the > paper that perhaps you can take a moment to comment on: > > 1) Magnetic fields (caused by ion migration) trap exci

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread David Roberson
Jed, he is just stating that he believes that the COE is valid. So far I have not seen any systems that break this conservation law as long as you include the energy associated with mass conversion. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 5:

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread David Roberson
Blaze, that is my suspicion as well. Does anyone know the source of the energy? Have they made any claims? Dave -Original Message- From: blazespinnaker To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 5:50 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’. Its n

[Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos

2013-10-26 Thread foks0904
> > Peter, Dr. Hadjichristos, > Thank you for your efforts. Few questions/observations after reading the paper that perhaps you can take a moment to comment on: 1) Magnetic fields (caused by ion migration) trap excited Rydberg state hydrogen. Therefore the NAE are these localized "trap" zone

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread blazespinnaker
Hard to say... Maybe some combination of the earth’s rotation and celestial gravity. That is if it actually works as described. All I’m sure of is that it isn’t generating energy out of nothing. Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎October‎ ‎26‎, ‎2013 ‎3‎:‎16‎ ‎PM T

RE: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
From: blazespinna...@gmail.com This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’. Its not breaking the law of conversation of energy. If it works, its getting energy from somewhere. For gravity to provide continuous energy, it must usable some asymmetry. Tidal energy depends mostly on the a

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
more diplomatically I make a contribution. no edit... I keep the evidences (as pdf) http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2481-Wikipedia-self-appointed-guardian-erased-Elforsk-article-in-2-minutes&p=5906#post5906 2013/10/26 Alain Sepeda > we should propose to the erased a contract: > - if

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread blazespinnaker
Yikes. Sent from Windows Mail From: Jed Rothwell Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎October‎ ‎26‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎55‎ ‎PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com wrote: This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’. Its not breaking the law of conversation of energy. If it works, its getting energy from somewhere. H

RE: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
By "still" do you imply some kind of recent change ? . which is to say: do you have information that Rossi has reneged on his arrangement with them? It was common knowledge for several years, and Rossi admitted it - but to be honest, I do not follow this topic on a day-to-day basis. Rossi has

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’. Its not breaking the law of > conversation of energy. If it works, its getting energy from somewhere. > How do you know that? Where might the energy be coming from? Until you find the source I do not think you can make this assertion. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread blazespinnaker
This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’. Its not breaking the law of conversation of energy. If it works, its getting energy from somewhere. Sent from Windows Mail From: a.ashfield Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎October‎ ‎26‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎31‎ ‎PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com blazespinnaker Sat, 26 Oct 201

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones: Where did you hear that Rossi is still allied with Ampenergo? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:House of cards - the "big bang" model...

2013-10-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:37:04 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Personally, I do not mind a little creative accounting in astronomy if it >prevents our understanding from falling completely apart. It is in >business that cooking the books really bothers me. > It's only when our

RE: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ken: I'm confused by your statement: "I am not terribly surprised that you only got 20% reliability, Harry." Who is Harry, and where did you get this 20% reliability from??? That's not our tech. -Mark Iverson From: Ken Deboer [mailto:barlaz...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread a.ashfield
blazespinnaker <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=from:%22blazespinnaker%22> Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:01:02 -0700 <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=date:20131026> "Why would it cause textbooks to be rewritten? Energy fro

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread blazespinnaker
Why would it cause textbooks to be rewritten? Energy from gravity is already done via tidal energy. There’s nothing to see here unless it’s economical. We already have many forms of energy that generate power in ways that aren’t economical. Who cares if we have yet one more (and a seeming

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
few point. 1- spying is happening. I know 3 cases in recent quarters. 1 builder and 2 followers, and 1 tentative to get sample, 1 computer high-profile attack with perfect cleaning, and 1 ground intrusion by serious guys. forget suppression, it is economic intelligence (#nsa?) as most Snowden descr

Re: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread David L Babcock
Go for it! I hope for success. Depending on what is driving the current errors, your tech could be very useful right now, because what's needed, over a day, is more the trends than the absolute measurement. Your device with a daily calibration against a conventional "stick" would perhaps gi

Re: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Deboer
Glad to see interest stilll in the very much needed noninvasive glucose testing and wish you all much success. While I didn't work directly with methods for glucose tests or with diabetes particularly, I did work, a long time ago for sure, on related subjects and found maybe some things you migh

RE: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread a.ashfield
Jones Beene, What makes you think Rossi's partner is still AmpEnergo? Their single press release is dated Jun 2011. Rossi says he now has three teams (twenty something people) and there is supposed to be a group working on the automated factory. AmpEnergo doesn't seem to consist of more than a

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
we should propose to the erased a contract: - if the LENR is proven you are fired or you let the data leak. normally he will wait to be fired because of Groupthink & collective Delusion. 2013/10/26 Jed Rothwell > Alan Fletcher wrote: > > >> Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of

RE: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell a.ashfield wrote: "Rossi had no trouble convincing the Swedish Skeptic Society guy." The problem is, few people believed him. Certainly not the diehard critics or the main media or mainstream s

Re: [Vo]:Got a nasty review

2013-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
What you might need to do in your book is justify the LENR view of reality before you get into detail. The electron and light are the same thing topologically. The electron is just a defect or break in light. Both the electron and light “emerge” from the fabric of the vacuum. Without this ne

RE: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ol' Bab, Beg to differ: our noninvasive tech would allow you to test 100 times a day if you wanted, without ANY pain, ever, and for pennies/test. The device would cost a third of what you spend on test-strips each year, and it'll last for 3 to 5 years; do the math... -Mark -Original Message--

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher wrote: > Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of 2 minutes : > > In September 2013 the Swedish Electrical Utilities’ R & D Company Elforsk > . . . Do you mean you added this to the Wikipedia "cold fusion" article? And within 2 minutes someone erased it? They must have

Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > "Rossi had no trouble convincing the Swedish Skeptic Society guy." > > The problem is, few people believed* him*. Certainly not the diehard > critics or the main media or mainstream science. > If Rossi wanted to convince many people he could keep inviting new people in. Aft

[Vo]:Got a nasty review

2013-10-26 Thread fznidarsic
There are some interesting ideas here. I guess it could be possible that he got a couple things right, it is not likely though. It seems to me if cold fusion was really this successful there would be a lot more people working on it. I one thing that is completely obvious to me is that all of the

Re: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread David L Babcock
Beg to differ: We are having a mad desire for CHEAPER blood testing. $1.20/stab is too much at 3 to 4 per day. Medicare only covers 2. The pain? Very little, often none. Ol' Bab On 10/25/2013 1:15 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I ran across this article which might be of interest: http://www.

RE: [Vo]: ATTENTION: request for expertise...

2013-10-26 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Much appreciate the heads-up Terry! Optical methods have been tried for 30+ years and gobbled up several B$s, and still no regulatory approval! The latest optical corpse is C8Medisensor... they consumed $120M, got CE Mark last Oct, and 4 months later (Jan '13) went TU... Investing in an optical m