Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
Also consider the increase in efficiencies in the homes here. Incentives to improve leakage and appliance consumption through tax incentives have been implemented by this author. My home energy consumption is half what it was a decade ago. On Mar 2, 2018 8:44 PM, "Jed Rothwell"

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: U.S. manufacturing is at record highs. Manufacturing employment is down, > and the U.S. fraction of world manufacturing is down, but in absolute terms > it is higher than it has ever been. It is even higher when you include > things like mining and agriculture. Manufacturing energy use

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: I think another important factor was the stock market in 2008, which caused > many > people to become more conservative in their spending. They actually > started to > make an effort to save energy. > People have been making intense efforts to save energy since the

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 03 Mar 2018 12:29:28 +1100: Hi, [snip] >I think another important factor was the stock market in 2008, which caused >many >people to become more conservative in their spending. They actually started to >make an effort to save energy. ...read

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins wrote: It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in > manufacturing in the USA. > U.S. manufacturing is at record highs. Manufacturing employment is down, and the U.S. fraction of world manufacturing is down, but in absolute

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2018 18:06:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] >It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in >manufacturing in the USA. I know that when the Fukushima disaster struck, >the net reduction in available power in Japan caused significant

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Bob Higgins
It seems to me that another factor in the decline has been the decline in manufacturing in the USA. I know that when the Fukushima disaster struck, the net reduction in available power in Japan caused significant problems in manufacturing - hinting that manufacturing was a large consumer of the

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Has anyone looked at the impact of fracking on the data? Heating is a major energy sink and the difference in gas vs electric heating costs (even with heat pumps) could be a major driver in new builds. Andrew _ _ _ _ _ On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene wrote: Not to mention the electric car. Tesla alone “should have” increased the > demand for electrical power. This has not happened. > I have not looked at the numbers, but I kind of doubt that Tesla alone could have a measurable effect. Perhaps Tesla + Leaf +

[Vo]:Amazing and overlooked: the big picture of Grid Energy in the USA

2018-03-02 Thread JonesBeene
Those of us who are completely focused on LENR or new sources for alternative energy may have missed the big picture story. We have not been “following the buck” so to speak. That is, when you look at the changes in the supply/demand of conventional energy since the beginning of the Industrial