Re: [Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread Gibson Elliot
So you want to build a demon. That proverbial creature that can sort hot and cold bits. New research has created a wonderful Graphene energy harvester you might be interested in. I guess you could attempt to use minor spatial perturbations an use that. but for any real energy, ya just can't get

Re: [Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread H LV
The propane fridge would be consistent with a prequel book entitled: Ice from Fire. In your example the propane supplies the fire or high temperature reservoir. An engine requires a temperature _difference_ between a reservoir and the ambient environment. Typically we think of an engine as needing

RE: [Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread JonesBeene
Make that “propane fridge” … Einstein’s first patent IIRC This challenge is inspired by the title of Gene Mallove`s book "Fire From Ice"….Has this already been done? Yes. At least in the sense of a propane fringe,

RE: [Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread JonesBeene
This challenge is inspired by the title of Gene Mallove`s book "Fire From Ice"….Has this already been done? Yes. At least in the sense of a propane fringe,

Re: [Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread H LV
The challenge should be more symmetrical then I just described. Rather than boil water, the challenge should be to melt ice with a very cold reservoir where the ambient temperature is low enough such that the normal state of water is ice. Harry On Tue., Nov. 3, 2020, 4:04 p.m. H LV, wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:acoustic prism

2020-11-03 Thread H LV
Good point. Harry On Tue., Nov. 3, 2020, 3:52 p.m. Michael Foster, wrote: > Clever and interesting... But this device is not an acoustic analog of an > optical prism. It's much closer to an acoustic diffraction device. > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 06:13:08 PM UTC, H LV > wro

[Vo]:Fire From Ice: An engineering challenge

2020-11-03 Thread H LV
This challenge is inspired by the title of Gene Mallove`s book "Fire From Ice". A major engineering goal in the past was to make ice from fire. That is given a very hot reservoir and ambient temperature, build a machine which will cause water to freeze. Can a complementary machine be built which

Re: [Vo]:acoustic prism

2020-11-03 Thread Michael Foster
Clever and interesting... But this device is not an acoustic analog of an optical prism. It's much closer to an acoustic diffraction device. On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 06:13:08 PM UTC, H LV wrote: Engineers Debut the Acoustic Prism The device splits sounds without digital help h

Re: [Vo]:SPIN-LATTICE COUPLING

2020-11-03 Thread Nigel Dyer
It strikes me that this is essentially the mechanism that Neal Graneau proposed to be responsible for the arc-liberated emission of energy in papers such as https://www.academia.edu/download/38880867/Graneau-e-a-Arc-liberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy-2000.pdf However, I