Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
There is one deep state for Hydrogen/Deuterium that has been detected by R.Santilli more than 20 years ago. There are dozens of fantasts that believe in deep electron orbits and some finally end up in nuclear bonds that cannot be understood by classic physics. H* the "deep" Hydrogen state has

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I think that electron screening means that the nuclei also can aim better at each other. In hot plasma you do not have this screening effect. Also an effect to consider. On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:46 AM H LV wrote: > In response to hot fusion detractors of the cold fusion explanation of > excess

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread H LV
Mills says his hydrino model of a below ground state hydrogen atom is stable. However, if hydrinos were stable they should be more common than ordinary hydrogen atoms which is not the case. Therefore, if below ground states of hydrogen atoms can exist I think it is more likely that such an atom is

RE: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread JonesBeene
From: H LV ➢ Mills says his hydrino model of a below ground state hydrogen atom is stable. However, if hydrinos were stable they should be more common than ordinary hydrogen atoms which is not the case. Therefore, if below ground states of hydrogen atoms can exist I think it is more likely that

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread H LV
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:55 PM JonesBeene wrote: > *From: *H LV > > > >- Mills says his hydrino model of a below ground state hydrogen atom >is stable. However, if hydrinos were stable they should be more common than >ordinary hydrogen atoms which is not the case. Therefore, if belo

RE: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread JonesBeene
➢ If hydrinos are just more stable versions of isolated hydrogen atoms they should have been discovered in hydrogen gas using old technology many decades ago. But this is just a strawman argument against their existence. Harry What old technology, exactly, would have discovered them? That is a

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Hydrinos are based on speculative math and contradict the basic law of charge invariance --> nonsensical. But there are Hydrino like resonances based on magnetic resonance that is pretty close to the calculated values. So wrong model - pretty good results. Dark matter is based on pretty bad u

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread H LV
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Hydrinos are based on speculative math and contradict the basic law of > charge invariance --> nonsensical. But there are Hydrino like resonances > based on magnetic resonance that is pretty close to the calculated values. > So wrong model

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Do you mean no closed orbits? No flat orbits = classic planetary orbits do exist. All natural orbits are toroidal! See movements of earth axis! Mills: No the charge increases linearly with state number (N) what is nonsense as a locked in photon (Mills slang) cannot produce such a charge! J

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread H LV
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 4:20 PM JonesBeene wrote: > > >- If hydrinos are just more stable versions of isolated hydrogen atoms >they should have been discovered in hydrogen gas using old technology many >decades ago. But this is just a strawman argument against their existence. > > > >

Re: [Vo]:Concerning sub states of hydrogen

2020-11-22 Thread H LV
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 6:28 PM H LV wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 4:20 PM JonesBeene wrote: > >> >> >>- If hydrinos are just more stable versions of isolated hydrogen >>atoms they should have been discovered in hydrogen gas using old >> technology >>many decades ago. But this