[Vo]: Re: A SODden Thought....

2006-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Fred, Recombination of 2 OH to form HOOH is 2.2 eV per bond (213 kJ/mole) is lost energy ... But it isn't "lost" if it supplies the energy (recycling the catalyst) needed to dissociate the O from the M-O, for instance. Or, from you original post about your experience with Manganese reactio

[Vo]: Re: A SODden Thought....

2006-08-27 Thread Frederick Sparber
Some numbers to ponder, Jones.   It takes less than 2.5 eV to electrolyze water as opposed to the 498 kJ/mole (5.17 eV) H-OH bond energy. OTOH, the Ag-O bond energy is 2.38 eV and the Ag-H bond energy is 2.23 eV. It has been experimentally verified that water  dissociates to adsorbed H and OH o

[Vo]: Re: A SODden Thought....

2006-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
Robin If you want to convince us that there is free energy here, then I think you need to show a complete closed cycle of net exothermic chemical reactions. It's not that simple. And I am not saying that there is a net free-energy exotherm for the complete biological process - obviously the

[VO]:Re: A SODden Thought

2006-08-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Jones.   Whne I was a kid I couldn't miss the saturday morning movie adventure. Alas ! Yesterday! But, not to worry because Jones Beene is here to provide the spark of inspiration together with that intrinsic sense of humor so vital to life < grin>   For those odd Texans that never atte