Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: Habitats in constant-insolation space, fabricated from asteroidal materials > can support 1000 times the population of earth with land area that is > sufficient to allow dogs to run free (a few acres) per family. > > There's absolutely no need for technological civilization to

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread James Bowery
Habitats in constant-insolation space, fabricated from asteroidal materials can support 1000 times the population of earth with land area that is sufficient to allow dogs to run free (a few acres) per family. There's absolutely no need for technological civilization to occupy _any_ land area in th

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry wrote: > …but in the abstract, few “experts” would doubt that Earth in 2121 with 3 > billion inhabitants is more sustainable, for the long run, than Earth with > 9 billion. > I don't buy that. I would prefer to see 3 billion, because I like open space, but I think 9 billion could be made sus

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread pagnucco
The panel on the Woolsley video meeting was concerned over what they seemed to think was a real danger of a very prolonged outage - not an immediate shutdown of backup systems. I believe that there were experts there. Perhaps their concern is well-motivated and reasonable - it has been echoed by

RE: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
It is almost as if there is an emergent "catastrophe meme" looming out there in cyberspace - open to several interpretations, no? Who's zooming who? Are Crichton's so-called "eco-terrorists" being framed by a NWO elite to take a fall? Is "Davos man" the true culprit? From: Terry Blanton JB:

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread leaking pen
> > -Original Message- > From: ChemE Stewart > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm > Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > They ought to be working on it now. In 1859 many/most had access to > farms for food and did n

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > One wonders if there some kind of hidden political agenda in promoting this > kind of catastrophe (inaccurately)? > > http://www.amazon.com/State-Fear-Novel-Michael-Crichton/dp/0062227211/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375449183&sr=8-2&keywords=sta

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread James Bowery
Discrediting prudence is always in the unenlightened best interest of the reckless. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > One wonders if there some kind of hidden political agenda in promoting this > kind of catastrophe (inaccurately)? > > > Mark Gibbs wrote: > > > See http://

RE: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread Jones Beene
One wonders if there some kind of hidden political agenda in promoting this kind of catastrophe (inaccurately)? Mark Gibbs wrote: > See http://spaceweather.com/ ... it's bogus.

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread David Roberson
worst will happen only to find out differently. Take the year 2000 non event as as example. Dave -Original Message- From: pagnucco To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 9:31 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth David, You probably did not listen

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread pagnucco
gt; was that? >> > >> > On Thursday, August 1, 2013, wrote: >> > >> > Dave, >> > >> > I don't think ChemE is being gloomy. >> > Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks - >> > "... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread James Bowery
; not likely to blow up the diesel systems and their controls. The >> battery >> > backups should survive without serious harm either. >> > >> > >> > So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts >> > until the components are repaired, but I d

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
2013, wrote: >> > >> > Dave, >> > >> > I don't think ChemE is being gloomy. >> > Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks - >> > "... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all over the country." >> > >> >

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread Mark Gibbs
gt; So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts > > until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ChemE Stewart > > To:

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread pagnucco
> > So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts > until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. > > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: ChemE Stewart > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
. > > So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts > until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: ChemE Stewart > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm >

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread David Roberson
power transmission that lasts until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth They ought to be working on

[Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
gt; From: ChemE Stewart > > To: vortex-l > > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm > > Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > > > > > There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets > > us. It wil

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread pagnucco
riginal Message- > From: ChemE Stewart > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > > There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets > us. It will be un

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
il.com');>> > To: vortex-l 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets > us. It will be

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread David Roberson
No need to be so gloomy ChemE. We have survived thus far. Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP dir

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets us. It will be untold numbers of fission reactors that cannot get their backup batteries and diesel generators to run, or enough diesel fuel, which will lead to multiple meltdowns and will be the end to life as we know it. O

[Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

2013-08-01 Thread pagnucco
Massive solar flare narrowly misses Earth, EMP disaster barely avoided The earth barely missed taking a massive solar punch in the teeth two weeks ago, an "electromagnetic pulse" so big that it could have knocked out power, cars and iPhones throughout the United States. Two EMP experts told Secr