Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 05:04 PM 6/24/2006 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: >But because of the lack of universal standards and other vagaries >in calorimetry . . . As Storms noted, calorimetry is the basis of a large part of modern science & technology. It is, in fact, the universal standard in a wi

Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Michel Jullian
Jed (many thanks for having sent the CDs BTW, will tell you when I receive them), in the mood to pick up a fight, wrote: > Michel Jullian writes: > >>I couldn't disagree more. Jones is quite right that if we did have a CF >>process with enough COP for self-powering (he said 4, sounds reasonabl

Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian writes: >I couldn't disagree more. Jones is quite right that if we did have a CF >process with enough COP for self-powering (he said 4, sounds reasonable to >me), then a self powered demo would be the very first thing to do. But we do not have any such thing. This is like saying

Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: >But because of the lack of universal standards and other vagaries >in calorimetry . . . As Storms noted, calorimetry is the basis of a large part of modern science & technology. It is, in fact, the universal standard in a wide range of such chemistry, nuclear reactions and

Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Michel Jullian
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics > Well Jones, I suggest you are starting with a false assumption. > Calorimetry is considered proof in every other field and in every other > application. Good calo

Re: [Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Well Jones, I suggest you are starting with a false assumption. Calorimetry is considered proof in every other field and in every other application. Good calorimetry, i.e. that which can not be questioned by a rational person, can be done and has been done in the LENR field. Granted, a lot of p

[Vo]: Bellowing about thermoacoustics

2006-06-24 Thread Jones Beene
If calorimetry were universally accepted as "proof", then the "excess heat" of cold fusion would not be in doubt. But because of the lack of universal standards and other vagaries in calorimetry, it is unlikely that it will ever suffice to demonstrate the reality of LENR to the most ardent of