Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michael Foster wrote: Stephen A Lawrence wrote: You've said two different things here: "the strength of the field will drop", and "the voltage drops". The dielectric will _certainly_ affect the voltage, just as interposing a charged parallel plate capacitor would affect the voltage (which wo

Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Foster
Stephen A Lawrence wrote: > You've said two different things here: "the strength of the > field will drop", and "the voltage drops". The dielectric will > _certainly_ affect the voltage, just as interposing a charged > parallel plate capacitor would affect the voltage (which would > reduce it by

Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michael Foster wrote: I'm trying to figure out how a couple of guys who are clearly better educated, and probably a lot smarter than I, can have gone so far wrong. OK it's time to point out something trivial. divergence(E) = 4 pi rho (in cgs units) E is the "real" electric field (not the

RE: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Foster
I wrote: > There is a fundamental problem with this idea. While the earth > has a net negative charge of say, one megajoule, the tiny > fraction of a joule per square meter just won't supply the > repulsive force you need unless your Van de Graaff spacecraft > is very large and already elevat

[Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Foster
I'm trying to figure out how a couple of guys who are clearly better educated, and probably a lot smarter than I, can have gone so far wrong. Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Frederick Sparber wrote: > Posted earlier: >> This Field Line Applet is cheaper than buying more VDGs. http://www.cco.cal