Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Michel Jullian
skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...]) Hi Robin, What you are missing is that spending money on reducing unimportant GHG emissions could be spent on technology for surviving natural climate change. The IPCC is shooting themselves in the head. Dave What you

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France? Many positive results came from this effort: 1. Johnson-Matthey learned how to make Pd that works nearly every time. They characterize the material

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Michel Jullian
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...]) Michel Jullian wrote: Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Thanks for the rich historical details, but am I correct in understanding that nothing positive _actually came out_ of it . . . That is incorrect. See the paper I referenced earlier: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf 74 watts continuously for 40 to

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Philip Winestone
Pathological scepticism is not the same as deliberately lying to cover up meaningful results. P. At 09:43 AM 2/7/2007 -0500, you wrote: Michel Jullian wrote: Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France? Many

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Philip Winestone wrote: Pathological scepticism is not the same as deliberately lying to cover up meaningful results. That is true. But in the case of the NHE and Toyota, I sense that the decision makers do not believe the results, so they lie about them. I think that is also how the people

[Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-05 Thread Michel Jullian
Outside of the US it's hilarious to see how even weather, which used to be the most consensual of topics, has become a political issue there, subject to the same lack of logic and openness as traditional political arguments. What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute

RE: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-05 Thread David Thomson
Hi Michel, What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot :) What you are missing is that spending money on reducing unimportant GHG emissions

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-05 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to David Thomson's message of Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:31:11 -0600: Hi, [snip] Hi Michel, What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot :)

Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-...])

2007-02-05 Thread Harry Veeder
David Thomson wrote: Hi Michel, What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot :) What you are missing is that spending money on reducing