Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Excellent!!! How true!!! The reason is that the intent in all cases is to indoctrinate along certain predictable lines thus creating a nice docile herd. It's not to create clear, creative thinking - usually through doubting accepted dogma then applying "lateral thinking" and ultimately applyin

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/21/07, Philip Winestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And we too have our major sources of inertia... We call it collectively, "the government.") "Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowl

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Well enlighten us ! Can you name the company and the enzyme, please. The company in Ottawa is Iogen (that's an "I" not an "L"), but I'm afraid I didn't go so far as to find out the name of the enzyme; I've been remiss. (And we too have our major sources of inertia... We call it collectivel

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/20/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apologies if you already did so, as I do not receive all vortex messages for some unknown reason, which probably relates to the MIB And we thought you were merely ignoring us. :-) If the MIBs were after you, you would already be gone. Ter

[Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-20 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Philip Winestone > Then why are the chattering classes always talking about corn as the input vs cellulose? Hmm ... "inertia" can be both a debilitating force and a usable input And in this case, the problem of ignorance may emanate from an Oval office. > Oh

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-20 Thread Philip Winestone
Then why are the chattering classes always talking about corn as the input vs cellulose? Oh - and by the way, apparently the Ottawa company - experts in this area of biotechnology - was the pioneer in producing and using this enzyme effectively. That's what I'm told... and I believe everythin

[Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-20 Thread Jones Beene
Philip Winestone wrote: Nobody seems to have taken notice of this process, which was pioneered by a company in Ottawa. Well - not exactly ! Our (USA) DOE/NREL has poured lots of its precious (underfunded) resources into this exact area : http://www.ethanol-gec.org/information/briefing/2

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Philip Winestone
There is another way of making ethanol: from cellulose. There's a process that uses an enzyme that converts the cellulose to sugar from which it is converted to ethanol. The process is proven; ethanol is being produced this way. Nobody seems to have taken notice of this process, which was pi

[Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union Well, at least there has been some anti-ethanol press lately. I saw articles in Sci. Am., Consumer Reports, an