Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor : no bottom fins, parallel cores

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
a) Why no bottom heat exchanger fins? Rossi said a long time ago that the Gamma thermalization was partly in the lead shielding. In the original tubular ecats the lead was probably in contact with the copper pipe. I would expect the bottom lead to need fins. (I'd put them back, with a "?")

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor :sub-modules in PARALLEL

2011-11-13 Thread Alan Fletcher
- Original Message - > At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png > c) Rossi has said that the 3 cores are in SERIES, and then the > fat-cats are connected in parallel. This would imply that water is > injected

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor -- Reactor Volume ?

2011-11-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png Do we have any agreement on the volume of the REACTOR (excluding fins). You mean the cell. Or "core" as they say in the fission biz. The thing with the three cold fusion cells in it. I would

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor -- Reactor Volume ?

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png Do we have any agreement on the volume of the REACTOR (excluding fins). Lewan gives the total volume as 50 x 60 x 35 Lewan says the reactor is 30 x 30 x 30 -- Including fins S

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-11-10 03:58 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:49 AM 11/10/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Using Windows, you can make the Euro symbol by holding down the alt key and pressing 0128 on the numerical keyboard. € The Euro's going away so

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:49 AM 11/10/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Using Windows, you can make the Euro symbol by holding down the alt key and pressing 0128 on the numerical keyboard. € The Euro's going away so soon that I don't need to remember that trick.

RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
I think the effort of disassembly of the internal cell is being grossly under-estimated by those wishing for/expecting a viewing of the guts. In Rossi's big eCat, the cover seal was leaking water at 15 psi of pressure (maybe less). The cell is far more difficult to seal. Inside is initially ~150

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Peter Heckert
es at around 116 C. (1.7 bars absolute) Dave -Original Message- From: Higgins Bob-CBH003 To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 1:35 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor I originally surmised heat exchanger fins on the bottom, but several vorts insisted that there is no evi

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread David Roberson
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 1:35 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor I originally surmised heat exchanger fins on the bottom, but several vorts insisted that there is no evidence for heat fins on the bottom and that the reactor cell is bolted to the bottom (but I didn’t show bolts

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread David Roberson
I have always felt that the internal heater of the old cats was the main one. Rossi has always used misdirection and apparently Mary fell for it. Dave -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Mary Yugo
>>  And most of all, it seems to be a serious problem for Rossi to get an >> E-cat to one of the two universities he promised them too.  I wish Rossi's >> butt were somehow a bit more resistant to pain. > > He ran out of money and couldn't pay Bologna. If he really collected E2M he > should be able

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > He ran out of money and couldn't pay Bologna. If he really collected E2M he > should be able to pay them soon. If so, it will show up on their official > site. Using Windows, you can make the Euro symbol by holding down the alt key and pr

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:23 AM 11/10/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Are there better images of the interior that maybe I missed? Or a written report from a first person experience I can read somewhere? I am skeptical that anyone really got a good look at fine interior details and, in this day of tiny easily handled di

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 10.11.2011 20:23, schrieb Mary Yugo: Even if he's concerned about that, he could disassemble all the way to the final core and stop there. He did that, several times. Even with the big reactor people say they could see the whole thing, under the cell. You can't se

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Mary Yugo
> >Even if he's concerned about that, he could disassemble all the way to >> the final core and stop there. > > > He did that, several times. Even with the big reactor people say they > could see the whole thing, under the cell. You can't see much in the > photos, but you can in person. It woul

RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:28 AM 11/10/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: I presume when you say "hot input" you are referring to the top T fitting that is the water/steam outlet. Where is the evidence that it "IS" 3 bar? Have you identified the part used? The operating steam temperatures are more consistent with o

RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
I originally surmised heat exchanger fins on the bottom, but several vorts insisted that there is no evidence for heat fins on the bottom and that the reactor cell is bolted to the bottom (but I didn't show bolts). So I removed the fins on the bottom. Your comment about the internal water flow

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:12 AM 11/10/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Hi MY ... you're all over the web !!! In the older small (but allegedly powerful) E-cats, the main (largest and probably most powerful) heater has always heated the cooling water! This is evident because it's wrapped around the *exterior* of the E-cat

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > . . . much less what was in the ones that were contained in his "megawatt > plant". You need not put things in quotation marks every time. We know that you do not believe this. If the secret is only in the catalyst "sauce", I don't understand why Rossi > doesn't do a compl

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Mary Yugo
In the older small (but allegedly powerful) E-cats, the main (largest and probably most powerful) heater has always heated the cooling water! This is evident because it's wrapped around the *exterior* of the E-cat. This never made sense, by the way, unless the objective was to use electricity t

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: See http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png a) Why no bottom heat exchanger fins?  Rossi said a long time ago that the Gamma thermalization was partly in the lead shielding. In the original tubular ecats the lead wa

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-11-10 10:34 AM, Andrea Selva wrote: Please note how far from the heat exchanger the Tin probe has been placed. Why didn't he place it closer like the Tout one ? This should be obvious, I would think, and doesn't seem especially strange. You want the Tin probe relatively far from the h

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Andrea Selva
Please note how far from the heat exchanger the Tin probe has been placed. Why didn't he place it closer like the Tout one ? 2011/11/10 Andrea Selva > Nice diagram but, how do you know there are the bottom an top lead layers ? > Under the radiator nobody could inspect in. > I'd replace the "lea

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Andrea Selva
Nice diagram but, how do you know there are the bottom an top lead layers ? Under the radiator nobody could inspect in. I'd replace the "lead" label with a question mark. 2011/11/10 Jed Rothwell > See: > > http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png > > I deleted

[Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png I deleted the #3 version of this diagram. - Jed