Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 8 May 2011 16:07:23 -0400: Hi, [snip] >So Sorry, I had an order of magnitude error. But the point still applies. >The point I was trying to make was that the 130 kw heat spike could not come >from a reactor vessel with a limited surface area of a reaction ve

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
worth doing though ... 50cc vs 180cc isn't a significant difference. > > > -------------- > > *From: *"Axil Axil" > > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent: *Sunday, May 8, 2011 9:48:59 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat? > >

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Alan Fletcher
e. This could be compared to the total bulge volume. Not worth doing though ... 50cc vs 180cc isn't a significant difference. From: "Axil Axil" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2011 9:48:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat? If 500 cc volume were true.

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
peatbog wrote: As I understand it, Rossi is claiming to do something that people > who know a lot about this sort of thing believe is not possible. > Not quite. Rossi and several hundred others have published definitive proof that they are doing something that some other people -- mainly hot fus

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread peatbog
> > A person can believe anything, but you do not have a rational > reason for believing this particular assertion. You cannot show > how or why they are mired in confusion, or point to any likely > error in their technique. As I understand it, Rossi is claiming to do something that people who k

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: peatbog > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 1:00:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat? > > > If Steorn, with a bunch of engineers working for it, could make a > measurement error and not spot it for a y

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
I am not sure about the size of E-Cat's "stomach", but the foil covered animal from janurary appears to be slightly longer  from nose to tail than the march/april animal. Harry > >From: Jones Beene >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 12:38:29 PM >Sub

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
peatbog wrote: > > It is clear now that both of these tests were juvenile efforts at > > calorimetry - below high school standards... > That's not a bit clear. This is industry standard calorimetry for heating systems of this size. These procedures are done hundreds of thousands of times a day

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: There is no “50 CC” which is relevant. There is no factuality in the > Rothwell appraisal of what others saw, or what he has heard that they saw > That should be: What they told me and what they stated publicly they saw. If Beene does not believe Levi, that's his prerogative,

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread peatbog
> It is clear now that both of these tests were juvenile efforts at > calorimetry - below high school standards... If Steorn, with a bunch of engineers working for it, could make a measurement error and not spot it for a year or more, and have to have it pointed out to them by an outside engineer

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
If 500 cc volume were true... A cubed shaped reaction chamber with a volume of 50 CC that can produce a 130,000 kw heat spike would radiate at a power of 1 kilowatt per square centimeter give or take. The absolute black body radiation temperature of such a vessel would be 17,636,684,303 degree

RE: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jones Beene
Well I can see that Rothwell is in now full retreat - since he has started to distort the facts to conform with his prior erroneous assumptions - rather than doing the basic reality check and admitting that he could be wrong. There is no "50 CC" which is relevant. There is no factuality in the

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: If one trusted observer (namely Levi) were to have been given a quick peek > inside the original device, back in January > 1. It was not a "quick peek." Who told you it was quick? 2. Others saw it too. 3. What difference does it make whether it was January, February, March o

[Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Jones Beene
One further point - the dimensions of the "bulge only" on the smallest device - the one with the ruler scale as seen in the images indicate the bulge is 7 cm in length and about the same 7 cm in diameter or ~260 cc in volume, maybe more. That is without the long flanges. If one trusted observe