Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Dennis
Yes From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland Dennis wrote: That was Dennis Letts - it was Pd on Au for codep work and for coupling the red lasers. With heavy water, right? The gold

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Dennis wrote: That was Dennis Letts - it was Pd on Au for codep work and for coupling the red lasers. With heavy water, right? The gold was just the substrate. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jones Beene
This is probably a step above hoax - more likely a case of severely underpaid scientists in Russia, etc. who are desperate to move West where the average pay for their skill set is four times higher. They may have even discovered a slight anomaly and cloaked it in a guise that will not become app

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread mixent
In reply to Dennis's message of Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:14:03 -0600: Hi, [snip] >I wonder when I see the nanosec pulses - a lot of room to get the input >power wrong >and the production of Pd and Ir from Zr?? > >Dennis C If it's based on EV fusion, then you can expect fusion of all sorts

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:45:57 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Somewhat similar to Rossi. See: > >http://pesn.com/2011/03/30/9501800_Zirconium_Flavored_Cold_Fusion_from_Poland/ > >- Jed From reading the patent, this sounds a lot like fusion resulting from Ken Shoulders "EV". (

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Dennis
That was Dennis Letts - it was Pd on Au for codep work and for coupling the red lasers. Dennis C From: Peter Gluck Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:37 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland Dera Jed I will ask him. If I remember well

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Dennis
[Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland - Original Message From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 3:27:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland Not to speak for others, let me report that Ed Storms thinks this guy is pro

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread peatbog
> > Could it be a hoax? I don't know, but I am surprised that Mark Goldes hasn't had anything to add. Steorn is still in there, sort of, implying, on their 'steornofficial' twitter account, that they have a 3kw heater that you can hold in your hand; and saying that they will release 'info' on a

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Jed Rothwell > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 3:27:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland > > Not to speak for others, let me report that Ed Storms thinks this guy is >probably nuts

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
al" which you can find by clicking "bids and proposals" on Waldemar home page. Harry From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 1:45:57 PM Subject: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland Somewhat similar to R

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
Dera Jed I will ask him. If I remember well, Dennis Cravens had some cathodes with gold, don't know the structure (Pd covered with a layer of gold?) Not sure about it. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Not to speak for others, let me report that Ed Storms thinks this guy is

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I should say Ohmori ran dozens of Au cathodes. Maybe no hundreds. He had them in an array of small transparent plastic boxes, like the kind you might keep beads in. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Not to speak for others, let me report that Ed Storms thinks this guy is probably nuts. Peter: Ask Piantelli what he thinks of Au-H. Ohmori ran hundreds of thin gold samples and observed heat in many cases. The samples were small and it wasn't much heat. He did the cleanest electrochemistry I

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter, > I have also found this, have not the slightest idea if hydrogen is present > or not. I will try to find out the documents in the original languages-  I > have a long experience in collaboration with Russian and Ukrainian > inventors- YUSMAR, INTERENERGORESURS etc. > If there is hydr

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
I have also found this, have not the slightest idea if hydrogen is present or not. I will try to find out the documents in the original languages- I have a long experience in collaboration with Russian and Ukrainian inventors- YUSMAR, INTERENERGORESURS etc. If there is hydrogen present, will they

RE: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jones Beene
Oops my spell checker must have changed "electrino" to 'election'. 'Electrino' is a word in few dictionaries .. From: Jones Subject: RE: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland Peter, The Polish device seems not to involve hydrogen, no?

RE: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jones Beene
Peter, The Polish device seems not to involve hydrogen, no? There is talk of an "election" or fractional electron at least in the PESN write-up I was in the process of trying to find something serious on this topic (aside from the FQHQ) and this turned up http://benevolententerprise

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
The Italians have a nice saying "Festina lente" We will soon know much better what happens in the LENR systems that generate real energy. Peter On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:38 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Somewhat similar to Rossi. See: > > > http://pesn.

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Somewhat similar to Rossi. See: > http://pesn.com/2011/03/30/9501800_Zirconium_Flavored_Cold_Fusion_from_Poland/ As Spock would say: "Fascinating." This would tend to lend credence to speculation that what has been described as the "lenr-canr" process, as revealed/implied by Rossi, Mills, and n

Re: [Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
A predictable event. In a message, I have received yesterday from Piantelli- re his LENR ideas (I am just translating it), he wrote inter alia: "Why Pd is functioning badly? The answer is in the electronic conformation of Pd which compared to that of Nickel is more compact and therefore require

[Vo]:PESN reports zirconium cold fusion in Poland

2011-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Somewhat similar to Rossi. See: http://pesn.com/2011/03/30/9501800_Zirconium_Flavored_Cold_Fusion_from_Poland/ - Jed