Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michel Jullian wrote: They say here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery that the A123 battery "has slightly lower energy density that other competing Lithium Ion technologies". Standard Li-ion (not high power): 150 to 200 Wh/kg (sez above article), so "slightly lower" would be

[Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Michel Jullian
om: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery > > > Michel Jullian wrote: >> That's for the cathode material, and it is nanostructured. The rest seems to >> be standard Li io

Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michel - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery Lithium Titanate: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20071212/144076/ Terry On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1

[Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Michel Jullian
nal Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery > Lithium Titanate: > > http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20071212/144076/ > > Terry > > On Wed, Ap

Re: [Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Lithium Titanate: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20071212/144076/ Terry On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Charles M. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the SCiB battery made of? > I think that everyone should know as much about everything as possible. > Secrecy does not hel

[Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-30 Thread Charles M. Brown
What is the SCiB battery made of? I think that everyone should know as much about everything as possible. Secrecy does not help civilization extend knowledge. People enthusiastic about batteries should gravitate towards battery makers. Product users should be as knowledgeable as possible abou

[Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-29 Thread Michel Jullian
Good point, I think you're right Stephen, but they probably want people to get it wrong, as I did too, because in fact they don't have a good _energy_ density, see my previous post in this thread and actual tech specs at the bottom of: http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm w

[Vo]:Re: Toshiba Bettery

2008-04-29 Thread Michel Jullian
Indeed, the SCiB specs here http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm indicate ~20 Kg/kWh, so that a 50kWh battery (energy claimed by EESTOR) would weigh ~1000Kg (instead of 50Kg claimed by EESTOR IIRC) Michel - Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROT