Chris Zell quoted someone:
However, the fact is that as cars get older, Sha'ken [car
inspection] becomes more and more expensive.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with anyone I know.
Eventually, if the car stops running well or reaches a certain age
(even though it's still a good car), you
Jones Beene wrote:
It gives us that window of opportunity, one or two years, to provide
the technical “miracle” breakthrough in alternative energy which is
what we really need to maintain the way of life we treasure so much,
and which has been threatened by this stupid dependence on foreign
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From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar]
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Jones Beene wrote:
It gives us that window of opportunity, one or two years, to provide
the technical miracle breakthrough in alternative
I sometimes wonder if, after the decline of organized religions influence, the
same human emotions remain - especially guilt. So, people adopt religious
behavior in regard to the environment or carbon trading or whatever.
There are reasons for poverty in the world and corruption and bad
Chris Zell wrote:
Why should we condemn consumers for wanting a good home, a safe
useful car or the ability to support their families? The idea that
we are somehow 'stealing' too much of the world's resources so as to
impoverish the rest is nonsense. If we all stop eating meat, it
won't add
: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Repost of: Oil Glut?
Jones Beene wrote:
It gives us that window of opportunity, one or two years, to provide
the technical miracle breakthrough in alternative energy which is
what we really need to maintain the way
Jeff Fink wrote:
What standard of living do you wish to apply to the rest of us?
I favor vastly improved standards of living by applying new
technology and common sense. See Arthur Clarke, Profiles of the
Future for details. Especially chapter 12. As I mentioned, I want
everyone to have
Jed, I agree with all what you said below.
The problem is mostly economic, as the economic system is today a
superstructure of the politic system. You cannot sustain an economy and
a social system on irrational and innecessary consumption, and its
associated exponential growth as a goal. Both are
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Jed Rothwelljedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The cars are decades ahead of ours; washing
machines and other gadgets are superbly engineered and last for decades; and
the everyday food you buy from the 7-11 on the way home tastes better than
American gourmet
Economics is called the dismal science for a good reason.
If we gave up meat or any other resource, the price of said commodity would
indeed drop - temporarily. Once the farmers understood that their market had
disappeared, they would liquidate their herds. After that, meat ( or whatever
Chris Zell wrote:
If we gave up meat or any other resource, the price of said
commodity would indeed drop - temporarily. Once the farmers
understood that their market had disappeared, they would liquidate
their herds. After that, meat ( or whatever the dismissed commodity
was ) would go up
However, the fact is that as cars get older, Sha'ken becomes more and more
expensive. Eventually, if the car stops running well or reaches a certain age
(even though it's still a good car), you may have to pay a fee just to get rid
of it. This is the reason why there are so few older cars in
This message was sent out twice earlier, but was apparently lost in cyber-space
both times... since it is not in the archives, so I expanded it
into a more inclusive “anti-oil rag. Apologies for the overload, if they all
come in at the same time.
This is one of the few kinds of rants that
On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
My prediction – around November, oil will fall to near the floor
support level of $40 - and by the end of the year could hit $20
barrel if Obama acts decisively to keep ethanol producers
profitable, at the expense of the oil lobby (he will
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