Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread thomas malloy
R.C.Macaulay wrote: David Jonsson wrote.. This list was created to address vortex motion. This was probably a misnomer. There is a Vortex themes remain a component of this list. Some of us have ongoing applied research projects relating to water vortex phenomena. Jones Beene offers a regula

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 AM, David Jonsson wrote: This list was created to address vortex motion. This was probably a misnomer. There is a big difference between vortex motion an rotating motion. A vortex is without rotation. Rotational motion is on the other hand full of special phenomena

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread David Jonsson
On 7/14/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 14/7/2007 9:20 AM, David Jonsson wrote: My teacher in fluid mechanics Sten Herlitz taught us that a vortex was rotation free. He showed a movie showing that the small parts of the fluid did not rotate. This is what I was referring to. Rota

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On 14/7/2007 9:20 AM, David Jonsson wrote: My teacher in fluid mechanics Sten Herlitz taught us that a vortex was rotation free. He showed a movie showing that the small parts of the fluid did not rotate. This is what I was referring to. Rotation is well defined as nabla cross velocity, ‹¥v, some

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread R.C.Macaulay
David wrote.. My teacher in fluid mechanics Sten Herlitz taught us that a vortex was rotation free. He showed a movie showing that the small parts of the fluid did not rotate. This is what I was referring to. Rotation is well defined as nabla cross velocity, ∇×v, sometimes called vorticity whi

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-14 Thread David Jonsson
My teacher in fluid mechanics Sten Herlitz taught us that a vortex was rotation free. He showed a movie showing that the small parts of the fluid did not rotate. This is what I was referring to. Rotation is well defined as nabla cross velocity, ∇×v, sometimes called vorticity which is bad since t

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-13 Thread R.C.Macaulay
David Jonsson wrote.. This list was created to address vortex motion. This was probably a misnomer. There is a big difference between vortex motion an rotating motion. A vortex is without rotation. Rotational motion is on the other hand full of special phenomena. I think a lot of the confusion a

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-13 Thread Harry Veeder
It is good to bring this up. However, a vortex is a rotating phenomena, but unlike the centre of rotation of a wheel or a disk, the centre of rotation of a vortex does not structure the phenomena. Harry On 13/7/2007 12:01 PM, David Jonsson wrote: This list was created to address vortex motion. T

Re: [Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-13 Thread Jones Beene
David, Let me be the first to display my ignorance. Could you clarify what you mean: "the vortex is without rotation". I believe the origin of the forum name goes back to the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube, in which there is plenty of rotation from the perspective of the tube. What is the frame

[Vo]:The name vortex-l

2007-07-13 Thread David Jonsson
This list was created to address vortex motion. This was probably a misnomer. There is a big difference between vortex motion an rotating motion. A vortex is without rotation. Rotational motion is on the other hand full of special phenomena. I think a lot of the confusion and mysticism is the fail