Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-22 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/10/22 Jed Rothwell : > Conventional sources such as solar thermal or advanced fission could provide > far more energy per capita with greatly reduced pollution. Cold fusion or > some other radically new source of energy could do this at a cost 100 to > 1000 times cheaper than any of these con

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >"The heavy hydrogen in the seas can drive all our machines, heat all >our cities, for as far ahead as we can imagine. If, as is perfectly >possible, we are short of energy two generations from now, it will be >through our own incompetence. We will be like If my inven

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:10:41 -0400: Hi, [snip] >We should also remember that energy is already free. It is by far the >most abundant resource in the universe, from the sun and other >sources. As Arthur Clarke pointed out in "Profiles of the Future" >(and I quo

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:07:37 -0800: Hi, [snip] > >On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > >> In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:37:42 >> -0800: >> Hi, >> >> This appears to be the same technology used in CRT TV sets

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: My main concern is that someday I may not be able to buy incandescent bulbs > even though I have a legitimate reason for needing some. > I wouldn't worry about that. Obsolete technology never vanishes, as I said. You can still buy washboards and coal shovels. The only t

RE: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
t Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:15 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: >Incandescent bulbs also have myriads of o

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven V Johnson wrote: Changing the subject, it would not hurt to occasionally perform a personal inventory on the following issue: It is easy to allow ourselves to be seduced into a perpetual state of giddy-like anticipation concerning a number of "free energy technologies." Once seduced, t

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:37:42 -0800: Hi, This appears to be the same technology used in CRT TV sets. I wonder what the energy of the electrons is, and whether or not x-rays are produced? I didn

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hoyt sez: > However, since Steorn and BlackPower are coming out with > free energy technologies soon it's kind of irrelevent about > efficiency, isn't it? Even a hypothetical "free energy" BLP generator in my basement would end up costing me something, though presumably a lot less than what I'm c

RE: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: Incandescent bulbs also have myriads of other uses where heat is wanted ( e.g.incubators ,non-linear resistor elements in electronic circuitry . . . I think dedicated resistance heaters would be better for this application. They would last longer and would be less i

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:37:42 -0800: Hi, This appears to be the same technology used in CRT TV sets. I wonder what the energy of the electrons is, and whether or not x-rays are produced? >An alternative to CFL and LED is emerging: > >http://www.vu1.com/ > >ht

RE: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
online.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:38 PM To: Vortex-L Subject: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology An alternative to CFL and LED is emerging: http://www.vu1.com/ http://www.vu1.com/ESLupdate/default.htm Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-20 Thread Horace Heffner
An alternative to CFL and LED is emerging: http://www.vu1.com/ http://www.vu1.com/ESLupdate/default.htm Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/