Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-13 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 13, 2012 à 11:24 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a écrit : > Message for whack-out inventors. The record of great results from keeping it > all very secret is a total disaster. Thank you for the links. From Eugene Mallove's article: "Joseph Papp was a 'hero' to have brought this technology to

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:31 AM 8/12/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine that brings it back into attention? I gather someone claims they replicated it? Is there any evidence

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
So, for those coming up to speed on the whole Noble Gas Engine story, an additional layer of confusion is the definition of "Bob's brother". On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html > > *Tom Rohner died in March after a long and painful ba

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html *Tom Rohner died in March after a long and painful battle against pancreatic cancer.* ** *John and Bob survive.* Cheers: Axil On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob. > > > On Sun, Aug 12,

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM, James Bowery wrote: > When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. > > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> >> http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_su

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/ > Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry > > > > John Rohner is

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:20:11 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >John Rhoner made an all-electronic controller (per his resume he has LOTS of >controller experience) -- and this is the heart of the new >"intelligentry/plasma engines[s]. In particular, it no longer needs

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
ible, it seems. This, I assure You, has given me some insight. So I occasionally reply to individual posters.  ) all the best Guenter Von: Alan Fletcher An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:20 Sonntag, 12.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Chemical Engineer
Kelly, I believe the process is the same in ALL of these systems that work. Gas Ionization/Excitement, Confinement, Sparking/Arcing, Reaction. The reaction gives off additional ions to sustain the reaction without further outside energy from sparking and arcing if you control it well. I think t

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/ Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry John Rohner is trying to get support from Bill Clinton and Harry Reid and at the same time he wants them to crush his brother Bob using

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: "Jed Rothwell" > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:31:53 AM > I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would > someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the > Papp machine that brings it back into attention? My understanding : I believe that the o

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Aug 12, 2012, at 6:14, Corey Hahn wrote: > That is one Rohner, Bob. > The other Rohner, John is mass producing engines by the end of the year. > PESN has probably the best condensed info out there. > http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602157_Inteligentry_to_debut_at_Power-Gen/ I'm having trouble f

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I forgot to add a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CNpW3r1Tc WARNING!!! it is painful to watch. - Original Message - From: "Kelley Trezise" To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? I am attempting to listen to J

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I am attempting to listen to John Rohner explain how his engine work sand find it to be painfully difficult. If his resume is real he has a certain brilliance but it is obvious from this video that that brilliance does not spill over into the skill of expressing oneself verbally. - Origin

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > I, too, look forward to additional data. Good solid independent data. > Building a couple of prototypes would be ok too. Good luck with that. Bob and John do not get along: http://www.rohnerengineering.com/ I think

RE: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Kelly sez: > Give me data or give me death. That is absolutely priceless! I think we should promote the statement... start making bumper stickers or somp'tn like that. I, too, look forward to additional data. Good solid independent data. Building a couple of prototypes would be ok too. Regards

RE: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
ever seen one run CONTINUOUSLY, and let us know what he says. -Mark From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:What is with Papp? I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
p and quite some others seem to practice that sort of inspiration, or whatever that is. Dreamtime. Guenter Von: Kelley Trezise An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:00 Sonntag, 12.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? I am having difficulty e

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I am having difficulty enough believing in the E-Cat and now along comes the resurrection of the Papp engine with little heat out and vast amounts of energy out as usable work. I think I will lose my mind soon if things don't coallese soon in the form of an energy balance on the Papp system. A b

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Corey Hahn
That is one Rohner, Bob. The other Rohner, John is mass producing engines by the end of the year. PESN has probably the best condensed info out there. http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602157_Inteligentry_to_debut_at_Power-Gen/ I did not take them seriously till McKubre's endorsement. On Sun, Aug 12,

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 12, 2012 à 12:31 AM, Jed Rothwell a écrit : > I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone > please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine > that brings it back into attention? I'm not sure if this was entirely responsible for th

[Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine that brings it back into attention? I gather someone claims they replicated it? Is there any evidence they actually have? I don't quite follow who is