Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Harry Veeder
I propse that the primary motive force responsible for the tracks in the CO2 mist is not an air stream impacting on the mist. An air thread serves as an electrical bridge, but it is the local charging of the mist and the subsequent self repulsion among the charges that is primary force behind the

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 14:30, schrieb Horace Heffner: Some relevant quotes of interest from Bill Beaty at: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html "The "threads" can survive in a zero-field region. I made a crude "thread gun" and passed a thread through an accelerator ring composed of an aluminum

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Horace Heffner
Some relevant quotes of interest from Bill Beaty at: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html "The "threads" can survive in a zero-field region. I made a crude "thread gun" and passed a thread through an accelerator ring composed of an aluminum bundt pan. I didn't expect this to work, sin

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 4, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 13:40, schrieb Horace Heffner: I am familiar with air ions. The phenomenon measured by Bill Beaty in the presence of much water vapor, and having nano-amp current, I think is not made of non-polarized air molecules, but of

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 13:40, schrieb Horace Heffner: I am familiar with air ions. The phenomenon measured by Bill Beaty in the presence of much water vapor, and having nano-amp current, I think is not made of non-polarized air molecules, but of a contiguous string of polarized molecules. Here is on

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 05:07, schrieb Horace Heffner: That is because Bill did not call them "water thread" experiments. My mistake, and bad memory. The above wasser.html reference was indeed about water bridge experiments, not Bill Beaty's air thr

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 05:07, schrieb Horace Heffner: That is because Bill did not call them "water thread" experiments. My mistake, and bad memory. The above wasser.html reference was indeed about water bridge experiments, not Bill Beaty's air thread experiments, which are a very different thing - t

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
2011/12/3 Peter Heckert : > Am 03.12.2011 22:14, schrieb Harry Veeder: >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert >>  wrote: >>> >>> >>> I believe there is a vacuum for these reasons: >>> >>> 1) I placed a charged needle 1-2 cm above a water surface. The air blow >>> makes a sharp, mm deep

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 01:41, schrieb Horace Heffner: This is about the water bridge experiment, not Bill Beaty's water thread experiments. His fine threads extended multiple times the length of the water bridge, and were sustained indefinitely, w

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 01:41, schrieb Horace Heffner: This is about the water bridge experiment, not Bill Beaty's water thread experiments. His fine threads extended multiple times the length of the water bridge, and were sustained indefinitely, with orders of magnitude less current. Read the archiv

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy wa

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 01:16, schrieb Peter Heckert: Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy water expe

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy water experiments. Very interesting are the Schlieren p

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 00:29, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Oops!  I should have read the whole "air" thread! For those who might not know, Bill Beaty is our list owner. He has 56 science videos, 22,000 subscribers and 14 M viewings: http://www.youtube.com/user/wbeaty?feature=watch T

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > >> BTW, you might enjoy checking the archives for posts by Bill Beaty on the >> ability of HV needle tips to generate threads of water molecules from >> humidity in the air. Some thread

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > BTW, you might enjoy checking the archives for posts by Bill Beaty on the > ability of HV needle tips to generate threads of water molecules from > humidity in the air. Some thread names I recall are "Air threads" and > "Filament ion jets" f

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should deliver about 100µA. Its a TV split diode f

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Horace Heffner: Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should deliver about 100µA. Its a TV split diode flyback transformer driven by a selfbuild electronics

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:51, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 23:51, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by others too and published in science journal

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Horace Heffner: Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvLUL8f4LU http://amasci.com/

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment I see they missed the possibility the water is held together by volume related *structural* changes. Incredible! Her

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by others too and published in science journals. It must be seen that a strong current flows thro

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvLUL8f4LU http://amasci.com/freenrg/iontest.html Best regards, Horace He

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 22:14, schrieb Harry Veeder: On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: I believe there is a vacuum for these reasons: 1) I placed a charged needle 1-2 cm above a water surface. The air blow makes a sharp, mm deep and mm wide hole into the water surface. If I assume, t

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: >> >> I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a >> vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination >> of the ions and electrons.  Electron reco

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination with ions is likely what produces most of the light.

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination with ions is likely what produces most of the light. This is not to say fusion will not occur a

[Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, my idea is this: place a needle in a pressurized deuterium stream and charge it to some 100 kV. My previous experiments have shown, that a stream of nonconductive gas is able to conduct electricity. For example a ordinary needle placed in dry air will cause an ion wind, if charged to 10