[Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
Hi, I just read about an interesting characteristic of the nucleon-nucleon interaction (e.g., the scattering of a proton with a neutron or a proton with a proton or a neutron with a neutron). I wonder whether this characteristic is behind what we've been referring to here as "neutron tunneling" o

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:56:26 -0500: Hi, [snip] >If so, we would not have a ~ 1GeV rest-mass neutron traveling from a 7Li to >a nickel nucleus, but instead a ~ 134 MeV virtual pion being exchanged >between a neutron in the 7Li and a proton in the nickel nucleus, ca

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:56:26 -0500: Hi, [snip] >If so, we would not have a ~ 1GeV rest-mass neutron traveling from a 7Li to >a nickel nucleus, but instead a ~ 134 MeV virtual pion being exchanged >between a neutron in the 7Li and a proton in the nickel nucleus, ca

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM, wrote: ...However I does raise an interesting possibility. Might 2 radioactive > nuclei > utilize pion exchange to both become stable? > My initial thought was that the change would result in a very short-lived radioisotope which would decay into two stable speci

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM, wrote: This would change the Li7 into Be7 and e.g. the Ni58 into Co58. The > reaction as > a whole is endothermic, and both Be7 & Co58 are radioactive. > The endothermic part is problematic. That suggests that 7Li is not involved. I wonder which relevant reacti

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM, wrote: ...However I does raise an interesting possibility. Might 2 radioactive > nuclei > utilize pion exchange to both become stable? > Yet another possibility -- the pion exchange happens simultaneously with the decay of the light isotope to stable daughters, s

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Bob Higgins
If I put on my Don Hotson hat and *-try-* to consider his description of the proton, neutron, and the strong force, could it provide some insight? Hotson considers that protons and neutrons are composed of epos, in an orthogonal condensate in 10 dimensions. There are no quarks - just the electron-p

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: Is it possible to take this non-conventional "understanding" of the nucleus > and apply it to the interaction you are describing? > Possibly. It seems related. It seems like an implication would be that we would have to set aside pion exchang

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Axil Axil
Pions are produced by the vacuum. If the vacuum can be excited, the strong force can be modified through the influence of the vacuum on pion production. Everything emerges through the vacuum. The vacuum is fundamental. On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
I've worked out a simple model, and here are some reactions: $ python scripts/reactions.py "Li+Cu, Li+Fe, Li+Ni, d+Cu, d+Fe, d+Ni, d+Li" --model pion-exchange d + 61Ni → 2·p + 62Ni + 1082 keVn-transfer, stable d + 57Fe → 2·p + 58Fe + 531 keV n-transf

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: I'm guessing that all of these reactions are only energetic if the pion > exchange occurs simultaneously with the decay to lighter daughters, as is > being modeled here. > This turns out not to have been true. A followup check indicated that there were several reactions in the earlier l

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:57:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] You have a bug in your program. Charge needs to conserved. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread Eric Walker
Before Robin corrects my numbers, I have fixed them myself, and, re-running the same scenarios, the reactions are, without exception, endothermic! Even taking into account subsequent decays. (There's something mysterious in that.) I guess that's one way to disqualify a potential theory. My since

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-09-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:09:51 -0500: Hi Eric, Try starting out with radioactive nuclei, and ending up with stable nuclei. That should swing the tide in your favour. Often removing a neutron from an unstable nucleus will make it stable, and adding a proton to anoth

Re: [Vo]:one pion exchange potential (OPEP) and "neutron tunneling" in LENR

2015-10-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:20 PM, wrote: Try starting out with radioactive nuclei, and ending up with stable nuclei. > That > should swing the tide in your favour. Often removing a neutron from an > unstable > nucleus will make it stable, and adding a proton to another unstable > nucleus can > ma