Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michael Foster wrote: Stephen A Lawrence wrote: You've said two different things here: the strength of the field will drop, and the voltage drops. The dielectric will _certainly_ affect the voltage, just as interposing a charged parallel plate capacitor would affect the voltage (which would

Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Foster
Stephen A Lawrence wrote: You've said two different things here: the strength of the field will drop, and the voltage drops. The dielectric will _certainly_ affect the voltage, just as interposing a charged parallel plate capacitor would affect the voltage (which would reduce it by the

RE: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Foster
I wrote: There is a fundamental problem with this idea. While the earth has a net negative charge of say, one megajoule, the tiny fraction of a joule per square meter just won't supply the repulsive force you need unless your Van de Graaff spacecraft is very large and already elevated.

Re: [Vo]: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics

2007-02-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michael Foster wrote: I'm trying to figure out how a couple of guys who are clearly better educated, and probably a lot smarter than I, can have gone so far wrong. OK it's time to point out something trivial. divergence(E) = 4 pi rho (in cgs units) E is the real electric field (not the