Jones Beene wrote:
If QM is involved, as may well be the case (quasi BEC for instance, or
tunneling) then a REVERSE economy of scale may emerge. This could
limit any single device to tens of watts or less. Of course, it may be
possible that an array of dozens or hundreds of mass-produced
Robin van Spaandonk may have missed Australia's home grown
kicks-the-Bloom-box's-a*s device, the Bluegen from Ceramic Fuel Cells Ltd.
http://www.cfcl.com.au/BlueGen/
Here's a presentation about the device - similar technology to the Bloom box -
high temperature fuel cell - grid connected. The
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I would say that an early LENR or fractional hydrogen converter could
provide the energy deficit (in heat or light) necessary to close the loop,
even if alone they are not robust enough to power the home. . . .
I do not think it is likely that cold
From: Jed Rothwell
* I do not think it is likely that cold fusion will work, yet not work well
enough to provide all of the power you need for an application such as this.
The power density already demonstrated in a few cases should be good
enough..
Yes, the power density is there
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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I would say that an early LENR or fractional hydrogen converter could
provide the energy deficit (in heat or light
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:04:35 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Fractional hydrogen converter sounds very much like BlackLight Power and
the CIHT cell under development for motive and other uses. Details are not
yet published but advanced claims Include driving a conventional
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Mike Carrell wrote:
Fractional hydrogen converter sounds very much like BlackLight Power and
the CIHT cell under development for motive and other uses. Details are not
yet published but advanced claims Include driving a conventional car 1500
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hi Robin,
Well, in one sentence - it is CF !:)
The impact on the patent portfolio will not be as difficult to swallow
as the impact on his ego. I'm not sure the man can survive such an
event.
Imagine if Mills' work
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Well yes ... you're right ... and not to mention, it is wy ahead of hot
fusion - cough, cough ... and the $50 billion invested to date (current
dollars).
Lemme see... if I have two hamsters on treadmills, and a large
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Who came up with the 100 homes figure!
http://www.eia.doe.gov/ask/electricity_faqs.asp sez that the average
energy usage is 920 kWhr per month requiring an average power of about
1.3 kW or about
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Well yes ... you're right ... and not to mention, it is wy ahead of hot
fusion - cough, cough ... and the $50 billion invested to date (current
dollars).
Lemme see... if I have two hamsters on treadmills, and a large
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
I thought an average U.S. home needs access to approximately 25 Kilowatts.
I think that's 25 kilowatt hours / day, i.e. about 1 kW.
The average residential unit (house or apartment) uses 1 or 2 kW average
throughout the day (I think it is), but at any given moment
The bottom line is that I think a 100 kW generator would not be adequate for
100 houses, unless it was tied into the power company distribution network,
so that the 100 houses could borrow electricity during demand surges, and
sell electricity back during quiet periods. This is what many rooftop
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/ask/electricity_faqs.asp sez that the average
energy usage is 920 kWhr per month requiring an average power of about
1.3 kW . . .
I recalled that it was 1 or 2 kW. Not bad! My memory is mostly intact.
As far as how it
From Jed:
...
...If we had millions of these Bloom fuel cell gadgets in use, the
power company would be mainly in the distribution business, as a
broker you might say. This reduces the cost of privately owned
generators, and ensures reliability and availability when the
generators need
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:29:11 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
I can't find the efficiency rating of the Bloom gadgets, but large-scale
fuel cell efficiency is usually pretty high, like 60%. That is as good as
the best combined cycle combustion generators. The only thing better
From: Jed Rothwell
* Here is an iffy claim. Carbon Sequestration..The pure CO2 emission
allows for easy and cost-effective carbon sequestration from the Bloom
systems. Yeah, right. You are going to sequester CO2 in a million different
locations?
Whoa ! The breakthrough which is needed
One per day? I am speechless at such a great advance...
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Silicon Valley start-up Bloom Energy, which makes fuel
cell boxes that can power buildings, expects to be producing one of
its boxes per day in the next few months
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
One per day? I am speechless at such a great advance...
A MW every 3 years. Hey it's a nuke every century my cynical friend. :-)
T
From Terry:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69C6KE20101014
Saw the article when it first aired on 60 Minutes. Really cool idea.
I gather one of the bloom box's best selling points is the fact that it's
fairly indiscriminate when it comes to what likes to be feed. It likes
fossil fuels. I
Well yes ... you're right ... and not to mention, it is wy ahead of hot
fusion - cough, cough ... and the $50 billion invested to date (current
dollars).
Lemme see... if I have two hamsters on treadmills, and a large enough yard
to feed them on grass clippings, in 3 yrs at their normal
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Fri, 15 Oct 2010
19:29:39 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Bloom's boxes cost $700,000 to $800,000, and each provides 100 kilowatts
of electricity -- enough to power 100 average U.S. homes -- with roughly
the footprint of a parking space.
I
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