Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Analog Fan
>No, the sources are clear. This is the export of food grown in Holland. It >does not include food transshipped through. Here's a source. $55 billion, of which $7b is flowers, and the rest of the majority is trans-shipments, according to the USDA. "World exports in agricultural products total

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: I realize that whoever wrote the article believed that to be true, but they > had > to get their figures from somewhere, and I suspect they used government > sources, > which they may not have completely understood. > The information I quoted came from The Dutch Ministry of Economic Affai

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:10:11 -0400: Hi Jed, I realize that whoever wrote the article believed that to be true, but they had to get their figures from somewhere, and I suspect they used government sources, which they may not have completely understood. > wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Frank Acland
Here's an interesting page with video of a Dutch indoor farming project. All light comes from LEDs. http://singularityhub.com/2011/08/14/dutch-plantlab-revolutionizes-farming-no-sunlight-no-windows-less-water-better-food/ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Eric Walker wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: > I like the high-tech approach to agriculture, but the hazmat suites and > the water sterilization seem a little anachronistic -- like a 1960s take on > what the future will be like. > Apparently it reduces spoilage. They do not do anything there by accident or without caref

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > Holland is also a major export port for a large part of Europe, and does a > lot > of trade. So the export figures could include agricultural products > imported > from other European countries as well as those produced locally. > No, the sources are clear. This is the export of food g

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > I like the high-tech approach to agriculture, but the hazmat suites and the > water sterilization seem a little anachronistic I imagine the suits are to protect from mold spore. Many times I have seen a loaf of bread begin to grow five green

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: I like the high-tech approach to agriculture, but the hazmat suites and the > water sterilization seem a little anachronistic -- like a 1960s take on > what the future will be like. The view here in California looks a little > different, with the farmers' markets and the locavore movemen

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:03:25 +1000: Hi, [snip] >In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 9 Jun 2013 17:14:34 -0400: >Hi, >[snip] > >Holland is also a major export port for a large part of Europe, and does a lot ...I probably should have said "Rotterdam

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 9 Jun 2013 17:14:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] Holland is also a major export port for a large part of Europe, and does a lot of trade. So the export figures could include agricultural products imported from other European countries as well as those produced loca

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: People will want cheese produced on a farm nearby rather than > shipped across the country and loaded with preservatives to keep it from > going bad. > That was a bad example; I doubt cheese goes bad like that -- the normal kind, anyway. But the general idea still applies. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The people picking crops wear haz mat suits and ride on electric cars that > rise up to the high end of the vines. A robot train of picked crops threads > its way to the processing building. Pretty soon I expect robots will also > pick the crops

RE: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Charles Francis
: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports The total value of Dutch agricultural exports was 75.4 billion euros in 2012.

RE: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread DJ Cravens
crop (machines measure that specific crop's transpiration and match the holes exactly for that item) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 17:14:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Harry Veeder wrote: That is hard to believe. Perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: > That is hard to believe. Perhaps they mean second largest food exporter > per capita? > No, the second largest in the world. I think measured in dollar value of the exports, not food tonnage. Amazing, isn't it? A little country with 16 million people. They also export th

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Leonard Arbuthnot
It includes bulbs and cut flowers - but agriculture only employs 4% of the population! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands#Agriculture I must admit I find a lot ot admire about the Dutch way of doing things. - Leo From: Harry Veeder > That is hard t

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > This may be a little off topic but anyway . . . On NHK the other day I saw > a documentary about food exports and high-tech agriculture in the > Netherlands. Here is a web page about it: > > http://www.hollandtrade.com/sector-information/agric