RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-23 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Bob, that’s an interesting theory.. wasn’t over abundant copper one of the anomalous Rossi claims? Fran From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 11:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Bob Cook wrote: If you believe slide 13 of the AP report, there was very little Zn in the > fuel to start with and even less after reaction. Ni amounted to 60 weight > % to start and Zn was reported to be .0135 %. There was not much Zn-64 in > any case. > I'v

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-26 Thread Jones Beene
I think we all agree that more information is needed, and that both 64Zn and 64Ni are unlikely to be seen in such large percentage – especially without the author of the paper taking notice. Resolution of this mystery depends on more information. The fact that the other data is spot-on refutes t

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Bob Cook wrote: My comment is only addressing the issue of whether Zn-64 was mistaken for > Ni-64 which Jones raised a couple days back. > Your point about the amount of zinc in the ICP-MS analysis on slide 13 was an interesting one. I was hoping to show that th

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I think we all agree that more information is needed, and that both 64Zn > and 64Ni are unlikely to be seen in such large percentage – especially > without the author of the paper taking notice. Resolution of this mystery > depends on more infor

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-26 Thread Jones Beene
speculate on. - Mark Jurich From: Eric Walker <mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 1:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I think

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-27 Thread Terry Blanton
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Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-27 Thread Terry Blanton
That was confusing. Try this: http://tinypic.com/r/b7bc5k/9 On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Here's a piccy of the label: > > http://tinypic.com?ref=b7bc5k"; target="_blank">http://i66.tinypic.com/b7bc5k.png"; border="0" alt="Image and video > hosting by TinyPic"> > > >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Okay, without the noise: http://oi66.tinypic.com/b7bc5k.jpg On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > That was confusing. Try this: > > http://tinypic.com/r/b7bc5k/9 > > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Here's a piccy of the label: >> >> http://tinypi

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-27 Thread Bob Higgins
Don't know if this will come through, but it is small... Here is the image of the label unwrapped from the jar: ​ On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay, without the noise: > > http://oi66.tinypic.com/b7bc5k.jpg > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
The only details that I can surmise from this label is that it probably came from “Ruskhim” which from the web is/was a seller of reagents, chemical, raw materials and lab gear … and that the sales date was 1990. And at least the seller considered it to be 99.90 % nickel. This means essentia

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook I doubt that the mass spec readings would have had such a peak at 64 given the low concentration of Zn reported. That’s because the zinc was labeled as nickel. Both the charts on page 14 and 15 show the enrichment of 64Ni at 4.4% -- but now Parkhomov explains that what

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Bob Cook wrote: I do not think there was any report of very much Zn in the fuel. If there > was Zn-64 in the samples tested it was not apparent from the report. In > fact as I noted yesterday, Zn was on the order of 01 percent. It was not > anyway reported nea

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Quote from Miley on Zinc posted on my web page Zero Point Technologies. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/wright.html

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, If a particular test or type of analysis is sampling the surface, but is done in such a way that a natural mechanism can bring mobile elements from deep inside a structure up to the surface, then the more volatile components could appear to have much higher concentration than they should.

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Bob, On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Bob Cook wrote: If I am not wrong, the laser activation indicates Zn is 0.004 mass % vs > the suggested 4%—more than an order of magnitude LOW!—more like 3 orders > Low! I checked the table of mass % and it adds to 100 percent. > You're comparing appl

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Bob - I’m simply trying to present options at this point. It is impossible to draw any valid conclusions since the data is conflicting. Zinc would be less compelling as a reactant if it were not a Mills catalyst with the lowest Rydberg “hole” in addition to its volatility. Thus it can **do

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
The recent realization that zinc fits the role as an ideal vapor-phase catalyst for hydrogen densification should be emphasized, so bear with me until the point is fully belabored. J This is about using zinc with nickel as a catalyst in the context of a hot reactor like the Parkhomov Sochi e

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, While all of this Zn speculation is an interesting theory/hypothesis, it stemmed from a completely improbable hypothesis - that the 4.4% of measured 64Ni was due to contamination by Zn in Parkhomov's Sochi analyses. First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Bob, Again, “how the zinc got there” is probably an unsolvable mystery, but contamination can come from unexpected places. It may still amount to serendipity. Recently an acute observer of the details of this situation has mentioned to me off-list that Parkhomov added zinc oxide to his ceme

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would > have a natural isotopic ratio. The natural abundance for 64Ni is 0.9%. > So, for the reported 4.4% of m=64 to be 64Zn + natural 64Ni, there would > have to be a 64Zn co

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread H LV
Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni increased by 0.8%. In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. Harry On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins > wrote: > >> First of all, it is reas

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread H LV
I wrote: > Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni > increased by 0.8%. > In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. I was refering to slide 14 in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2cHBha0RLbUo5ZVU/view?pref=2&pli=1 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:31 PM, H LV wrote: I wrote: > > > Notice that the amount of 58Ni increased by 1% and the amount of 60Ni > > increased by 0.8%. > > In total this equals the 1.8% decrease in the amount of 64Ni. > > I was refering to slide 14 in this link: > That brings up a related poin

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Bob Higgins
See below ... On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins > wrote: > > First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would >> have a natural isotopic ratio. The natural abundance for 64Ni is 0.9%. >> So, for the repor

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, You seem to be hung up on the impossibility of 7% zinc contamination and OK - you are probably correct on that point, as far as it goes… BUT… consider this. Zinc has a surprisingly low boiling point of 907C and the typical glow-tube reactor does not produce excess heat unless it get

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, I agree that there are many tantalizing characteristics of Zn as a possible catalyst material. My point is only that based on other measurements of AP's fuel, it is not plausible that 64Zn can be responsible for for the high ICP-MS reading for 64Ni in his Sochi reported analyses. This also

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Jones, I agree that there are many tantalizing characteristics of Zn as a possible catalyst material….My point is only that based on other measurements of AP's fuel, it is not plausible that 64Zn can be responsible for for the high ICP-MS reading for 64Ni in his Sochi reporte

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-31 Thread Bob Cook
Bob Higgins-- I agree with your conclusion regarding rhe absence of significant Zn in AP’S fuel. The laser activation results indicate this clearly IMHO as previously noted. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Bob Higgins Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎March‎ ‎30‎, ‎2016 ‎10‎:‎59‎ ‎