RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-08 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
but the dew point is -40 degrees so it's cool :-) ) > -Original Message- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 2:29 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Rossi

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Coincidentally, this story turned up today - about the "Mach effect" > > http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/scaling-up-mach-effect-propulsion.html#more > > From the comments - it seems nobody understands the full possibilities of > the Mach effec

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
Coincidentally, this story turned up today - about the "Mach effect" http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/scaling-up-mach-effect-propulsion.html#more >From the comments - it seems nobody understands the full possibilities of the Mach effect very well, including "goat guy," who is most of the way ther

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. * * Assume there's a device that can absorb energy, whether mechanical, electrical, or thermal, but not get hot -- the energy is sent to some unspecified alternate universe let us say for the sake of argument For the sake of this argument, assume that s

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joshua Cude wrote: > You misunderstand. I didn't mean it was a heat pump. I meant it would not > be much better than a heat pump. I've made this case several times, so I got > a little economic in the wording. > > > The argument goes that if its gain were better than an ideal heat pump . . > . >

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
4 PM >Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump > > >From:Jed Rothwell >  >No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat >pump. >  >  >  >Not exactly true, depending on how you define ‘cold fusion.’ >  >To clarify

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
5, 2011 9:08 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump From: Jed Rothwell No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat pump. Not exactly true, depending on how you define 'cold fusion.' To clarify - i

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Cude>> 2 - I think the impact would be far more dramatic without any input, regardless of how carefully it's measured. As I've said, this not only makes the effect more obvious, but in practice, a device that needs input is just a slightly impr

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat pump. Not exactly true, depending on how you define 'cold fusion.' To clarify - in recent testing of nano-nickel by Brian Ahern using various alloy nanopowders (similar to both Arata a

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat > pump. With exception of the hearts of the skeptics. :-) T