Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:52:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >A pressure drop would be meaningful (assuming leaks are eliminated), no? ...yes. In fact just the other day I was thinking about this as a means of producing an excellent vacuum. ;) (not all my thoughts end up on Vo

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:30:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >AFAIK - the HotCat is not designed to "retrieve" hydrogen, and yes the >reactor will stop working as soon as the initial hydrogen is depleted. It >was not intended to be a long-term solution so much as to demonstrate

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
AFAIK - the HotCat is not designed to "retrieve" hydrogen, and yes the reactor will stop working as soon as the initial hydrogen is depleted. It was not intended to be a long-term solution so much as to demonstrate that high temperature operation is feasible. From: Axil Axil One develo

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Axil Axil
One development in the design of the Rossi reactor speaks against the hydrogen migration idea. Rossi is using a solid to emit and retrieve hydrogen so his reactor does not require hydrogen tank to function. If hydrogen were lost through the walls of the reaction chamber in large amounts, the reacto

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Robin, >> 8x less effective volume than hydrogen and the perfect size to slowly diffuse through the steel > That's only the first level, and even then only if Mills' radius is correct. (My version would see the first level volume 64 times smaller.) Well, either way - it looks like no thicknes

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:40 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat From: Teslaalset Why would Rossi not put SiC powder in the inner cylinder instead? Plasmons appar

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:10:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] >8x less effective volume than hydrogen and the perfect >size to slowly diffuse through the steel That's only the first level, and even then only if Mills' radius is correct. (My version would see the first level volu

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: Teslaalset Why would Rossi not put SiC powder in the inner cylinder instead? Plasmons apparently form polaritons most readily at the interface between a metal surface and an insulator . but not so readily on a ceramic powder itself (without metal contact) - so one interpretatio

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Teslaalset
*save; *balance

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Teslaalset
Why would Rossi not put SiC powder in the inner cylinder instead? It would safe him some electrical bias power. Or maybe he's combining to ballance the heat output, using SiC powder in the inner core and in addition an outer SiC shell.

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
The gainful reaction(s) of the HotCat is open to further discussion... here is a start to that. This issue was left open from the previous post, since we do not have adequate data. There are a number of possibilities which involve plasmonics to some degree. 1) The f/H could f

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
An off-list question is worth posting relative to the HotCat design and Bob's comment. Why does the HotCat need the stainless steel "capsule" to be inside a SiC containment tube and then to be surrounded by the resistance heater, and how does active hydrogen get out of the capsule so that it can

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Higgins
Please correct me if I am wrong ... but in the HotCat, I don't believe any H2 ever comes in contact with the silicon carbide. The silicon carbide is an external cylindrical heater assembly around the 310 SS tube that hermetically contains the Ni, catalyst, and H2. The silicon carbide could be jus

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

2013-07-02 Thread Frank roarty
Jones, Welcome to my world!! Jovian , Haish and Modell were originally focused on helium and lamb pinch not f/h or changes is bond state.. Modell was interested in hydrogen but the plan for the prototype was helium and .1u cavities tunnels with alternate layers of insulation so they could flow the