Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-12 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > This theory has no bearing on the results. The theory may be wrong, but > the technique has been independently tested, and it works. > So they claim. But the demonstrations are not impressive. I'm not aware of any peer-reviewed papers on i

RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
vapor is ~1800. -m From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:34 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi? Just a thought, FWIW: The pressure does increase, raising the boiling temperature, decreasing the

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: This sort of claim "Unique to the ET experiments is the use of a new > understanding of wave modulation. Rather than dc, dc + ac, dc pulsed or > bi-level perturbation, the waveforms being subjected (successfully) to test > by ET employ waves fractally nested in a specific non-lin

RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
Subject: RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi? Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:29:17 -0800 Mass in must = mass out, or else pressure inside would steadily increase… From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo

RE: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mass in must = mass out, or else pressure inside would steadily increase. From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi? I never found a way to make vapor carry more than

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > There are scientists that report much better results: > http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/204israel.html > citation: > - Run #64b gave 1500% excess heat over a duration of 80 hours with a total > excess energy of 4.6 Megajoules >

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
I never found a way to make vapor carry more than 1/1 of its volume in liquid when any of its parts are sltighly off horizontal. So, I cannot convince myself that humidity meters would be useful at all. 2011/12/11 Mary Yugo > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Are

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Are you sure Puthoff was so skeptical to start with? He spent more than a > decade spending public money to research paranormal even before meeting > Yuri Geller. > Neither Targ nor Puthoff were properly skeptical of Geller's ridiculous (and

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
Are you sure Puthoff was so skeptical to start with? He spent more than a decade spending public money to research paranormal even before meeting Yuri Geller. 2011/12/11 Mary Yugo > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat < > aussieguy.e...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Are you saying Lev

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Are you saying Levi, Celani, Kullander, Essen,Bianchi, McKubre,Focardi, > etc and Rossi are ALL fools, idiots, liars or incompetents? If you throw > mud at Rossi you throw mud at them as well. > No. You're putting up a straw man. The pe

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Are you saying Levi, Celani, Kullander, Essen,Bianchi, McKubre,Focardi, etc and Rossi are ALL fools, idiots, liars or incompetents? If you throw mud at Rossi you throw mud at them as well. As for our venture, we need to wait for Rossi to post the technical specification for the high temperatur

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Vorl Bek wrote: > > If you are so sure Rossi has the goods, why don't you pay him the > money now - none of that escrow nonsense - in return for a 10 > percent discount, or for putting you at the top of the waiting > list - or both? > Did Rossi make those offers? Are you negotiating with him? W

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: There are scientists that report much better results: > http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/204israel.html > citation: > - Run #64b gave 1500% excess heat over a duration of 80 hours with a total > excess energy of 4.6 Megajoules > Dardik's results are impressive,

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Vorl Bek
> The circus is the continual refusal by deniers that call over 1 > year of published peer reviewed (Levi, Kullander, Celani, etc) > test data rubbish when it is the deniers that are making up > rubbish claims. You want science? Wait until Rossi sells me a > E-Cat and you can give it your all, tha

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
What circus? Rossi brought a Door Knob and stove pipe style reactor to the university for testing. Set it up with their test equipment and advise. Did the test the way they desired, as the university people were in the room (like Celani who tried to get / steal a spectrum) and measured around 1

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I think more his +10 kW outputs with a few 100 watts in is hard to question and that is which causes the stares and envy. As for questionable methods, the 15 Jan test was done under the supervision of the university professors and scientists. As Rossi said in the video, we did the tests as they

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Vorl Bek
> There are scientists that report much better results: > http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/204israel.html > citation: > - Run #64b gave 1500% excess heat over a duration of 80 hours > with a total excess energy of 4.6 Megajoules > > So, why do they all stare at Rossi and his poor COP a

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

2011-12-11 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Why? Because Rossi has apparently cracked the reliability issue. I can tell you he is being super conservative about the COP number. The 1 MW test had virtually NO input power. close to infinite COP, 5.5 hours of heat after death until finally the customer's acceptance engineer said "I have see