Noone, Thanks for the references regarding the ceramic and the 30% transmutation of Ni to cu after 6 months of operation (guilty of not doing my homework). I will google these further to see if I can find any additional support. As far as my comment on the need for asymmetry I am simply saying the environment must create an energy imbalance to either accelerate the reactants or lower the columb barrier as compared to a non catalyzed reaction to explain the transmutations to cu . Something in the MO has to be unbalanced – I am convinced that the change in bond state is a requirement to creating an asymetry because the anomaly requires a proximity to the threshold of disassociation (this goes all the way back to Langmuir and the atomic welder)– it may be the absorbing and desorbing process provide a sort of hysteresis to that threshold trip level varies depending on the bond state of the gas. A sort of maxwells demon that sidesteps the difficulty of directionalizing and segregates energy based on bond state. Regards Fran
From: noone noone [mailto:thesteornpa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? The information about the ceramic comes from the following: Dr. Brian Ahern presented the tenth talk, “Inverse Capillary Discharge for Amplifying LANR.” Ahern has been very intrigued by the recent work by Rossi and Focardi (http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf) involving Ni and normal hydrogen. He pointed out that they have used two important innovative steps: 1) The use of a composite material involving nanometer scale Ni and a ceramic; 2) The use of gas-loading to significantly raise the levels of excess heat that are observed in Ni-H systems. As in his first talk, Ahern emphasized the idea that energy localization, resulting from non-linear effects, might potentially play a key role in initiating excess heat. (Infinite Energy) I do not know if it is pumped or not. Please explain this "this is where we are all conjecturing for a best fit but still remains a mystery, we need more clues You imply there must be an asymmetry in the absorbing desorbing of hydrogen by the sodium where I suspect there must also be a change in bond state To aquire this asymmetry –perhaps due to the proximity of the disassociation threshold the bond states for absorb abd desorb are different? ________________________________ From: francis <froarty...@comcast.net> To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:28:21 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? Hi noone noone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:13:08 -0800 I don't think there is any RF generator. My understanding of how the process works is this.... First, the nano sized powder is cleaned of impurities by being baked and perhaps exposed to chemicals. Second, the nano sized powder is bathed in chemicals and baked repeatedly. This makes it able to absorb more hydrogen. Third, the powder is mixed with one or more catalysts. One of these catalysts may be sodium hydride. Fourth, the sodium hydride and nickel powder are embedded into some sort of ceramic. ===== I did see someone mention ceramic but think this is an equivalent ceramic environment resulting From the crystalline structure of metal lattice with defects and it’s ability to store hydrogen protons In the interstitial space of said lattice. ============== Fifth, this is placed in the cell. Sixth, the cell is pumped with hydrogen. ===========I know it is pressurized but are sure it is pumped? That would suggest a flow and the tank didn’t use any measurable gas ======== Seventh, the resistor in the cell is turned on which produces heat. Eighth, when the cell reaches a certain temperature the sodium hydride releases atomic hydrogen which fills in the little cracks in the nickel powder. The atomic hydrogen may turn into hydrinos (releasing energy) which then may fuse with the nickel which may produce more energy. ======== this is where we are all conjecturing for a best fit but still remains a mystery, we need more clues You imply there must be an asymmetry in the absorbing desorbing of hydrogen by the sodium where I suspect there must also be a change in bond state To aquire this asymmetry –perhaps due to the proximity of the disassociation threshold the bond states for absorb abd desorb are different? ===================== Ninth, the temperature in the cell rises. Then the input is reduced slightly to allow the temperature to go down. This allows the sodium hydride to regenerate and absorb hydrogen. Tenth, the current through the resistor is increased and the cycle starts all over again. I do not see any need for an RF generator. I think the system can self sustain if the temperature is hot enough, but the problem is that there could be a runaway explosion if that happens. Also, I do not see how the reaction runs away when the device is turned off.
