Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Grimer
At 04:16 pm 19/08/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Grimer wrote: > >> Well, "For unknown reasons, the addition of a small amount >> of noble gas (such as helium, argon, or xenon) to the gas >> in the bubble increases the intensity of the emitted light >> dramatically." >> >> Since the reasons are unknow

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Grimer
At 10:51 am 19/08/2005 -0500, Harry wrote: > Grimer wrote: > > >> >> Look at it this way. View the air molecules (the Alpha-atmosphere [A-a]) >> as dissolved in the Beta-atmosphere [B-a] which consists of particles of >> neutral mass and neutral charge. Thus A-a pressure (15 psi) is only a tiny >

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Huffman
Grimer wrote: If the above is correct then presumably the spectrum of the sonoluminescence will be different for different noble gases. Is it, and if so, in what way? - and do you know of a URL which might give this information? Frank Grimer Moin Frank, You make a good point, the spectr

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Grimer
At 04:16 pm 19/08/2005 +0200, Knuke wrote: >Moin Frank, > > Well, maybe, but probably not. At least, not with this given set of > data. The noble gases are most generally used in light generating tubes > at low atmospheres because they ionize easily enough, and then return > to their original

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Grimer wrote: > > Look at it this way. View the air molecules (the Alpha-atmosphere [A-a]) > as dissolved in the Beta-atmosphere [B-a] which consists of particles of > neutral mass and neutral charge. Thus A-a pressure (15 psi) is only a tiny > fraction of the B-a pressure (100,000 psi, say). >

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Huffman
Grimer wrote: Well, "For unknown reasons, the addition of a small amount of noble gas (such as helium, argon, or xenon) to the gas in the bubble increases the intensity of the emitted light dramatically." Since the reasons are unknown one might justifiably infer that the researchers who dis

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Grimer
Pursuing the analogy between sonoluminescence and the cavity magnetron, I googled the following very intelligible description of the early development. == By 1939, other researchers had discovered that under certain conditions, the magnetron

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Grimer
At 09:20 am 19/08/2005 +0200, Knuke wrote: >Grimer wrote: > >> Now since the bubble is a very high pF (low Beta- >> atmosphere pressure) cavity, it occurred to me that >> one could see it as miniature cavity magnetron. >> >> Th combination of its small size and it low B-a >> pressure [high ten

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Huffman
Grimer wrote: Now since the bubble is a very high pF (low Beta- atmosphere pressure) cavity, it occurred to me that one could see it as miniature cavity magnetron. Th combination of its small size and it low B-a pressure [high tension if one will insist on using an anthropomorphic datum ;-

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-08-18 Thread Grimer
Reading around the subject of sonoluminescence I was interested to come across the following. Single-bubble sonoluminescence pulses can have very stable periods and positions. In fact, the frequency of light flashes can be more stable tha

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-25 Thread Merlyn
--- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:24 pm 22/07/2005 -0700, Merlyn wrote: > > > It is a very compelling theory Frank, > > You say the nicest things, Merlyn. 8-) > > > but I don't think it works out. > > But here comes the "but" ;^) > > > > >Picture it this way... > > > >I

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-24 Thread Grimer
In Putterman's Scientific American paper http://www.physics.ucla.edu/Sonoluminescence/sono.pdf which has already been referred to in a previous post in this thread, there is a diagram of the sonoluminescence spectrum. Under the diagram is the following caption =

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-23 Thread Grimer
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Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-23 Thread Grimer
At 07:30 am 23/07/2005 -0500, Fred wrote: >Frank Grimer Sez: --- >> What interests me is, >> >> electron - electron >> proton - proton >> >> repulsion, >> >> and >> >> electron - proton >> proton - electron >> >> "attraction" >Here Here

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-23 Thread Frederick Sparber
Frank Grimer Sez: > > What interests me is, > > electron - electron > proton - proton > > repulsion, > > and > > electron - proton > proton - electron > > "attraction" > Here Here. > > I've put quotation marks around the word > attraction cos it ain't the electron and the > proton

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-23 Thread Grimer
At 12:24 pm 22/07/2005 -0700, Merlyn wrote: > It is a very compelling theory Frank... There's something I've missed out on up to this point to which I will now draw attention in order to raise the "compulsion" compreture. 8-) I am not at this stage interested in, electron - electron posit

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-22 Thread Grimer
At 12:24 pm 22/07/2005 -0700, wrote: >It is a very compelling theory Frank, but I don't >think it works out. > Spurred on by Merlyn, the "Magickal Engineer and Technical Metaphysicist", who by his own appelation has obviously the right approach to the way out thinking required for a conceptual

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-22 Thread RC Macaulay
  At 12:24 pm 22/07/2005 -0700, Merlyn wrote:> It is a very compelling theory Frank, You say the nicest things, Merlyn.   8-)> but I don't think it works out.But here comes the "but"   ;^)>--- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>>> I find myself in this situation with regard to the >> effect o

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-22 Thread Grimer
At 12:24 pm 22/07/2005 -0700, Merlyn wrote: > It is a very compelling theory Frank, You say the nicest things, Merlyn. 8-) > but I don't think it works out. But here comes the "but" ;^) >--- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I find myself in this situation with regard to the >> eff

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-22 Thread Merlyn
It is a very compelling theory Frank, but I don't think it works out. --- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find myself in this situation with regard to the > effect of drop in Beta-atmospheric (B-a) pressure > on the strength of the attraction and repulsion of > positive and negative char

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-22 Thread Grimer
I have been re-reading Putterman's remarkably frank and intelligible New Scientist article. http://www.physics.ucla.edu/Sonoluminescence/sono.pdf and found two very significant points which have a direct bearing on the effect of reduced Beta-atmosphere pressures. The first bit which drew

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-21 Thread Grimer
Insight into a problem is a bit like experiencing a vision. One "sees" something but doesn't know what it means. I find myself in this situation with regard to the effect of drop in Beta-atmospheric (B-a) pressure on the strength of the attraction and repulsion of positive and negative charge

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-20 Thread Grimer
At 10:17 am 20/07/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Am Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 05:46 schrieb Grimer: > >> Conceivably, in the limit, one could hydrinate all the >> water in the apparatus. If it proved possible to trigger >> the release of the hydrinated energy in a chain reaction >> one would effectively hav

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-20 Thread Michael Huffman
Am Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 05:46 schrieb Grimer: > Conceivably, in the limit, one could hydrinate all the > water in the apparatus. If it proved possible to trigger > the release of the hydrinated energy in a chain reaction > one would effectively have a high explosive water bomb. > > Cheers, > >

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-19 Thread Grimer
In the previous post in this thread I neglected to consider the possible effect of hysteresis or ratchetting of the sonoluminescent process. Such a process is illustrated in the modified "Denominator change" table below. ==

The Secret of Sonoluminescence

2005-07-19 Thread Grimer
d not a little amusing ;-) ], to see who else cottons on to the - "Secret of Sonoluminescence".8^) Cheers, Frank Grimer