Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-28 Thread Grimer
At 08:25 am 28/02/2006 -0900, you wrote: >Some older but still meaningful data on unit costs of energy: > >http://www.awea.org/pubs/factsheets/Cost2001.PDF > >Fuel Levelized costs (cents/kWh) (1996) > >Coal 4.8-5.5 >Gas3.9-4.4 >Hydro 5.1-11.3 >Biomass

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-28 Thread Horace Heffner
Some older but still meaningful data on unit costs of energy: http://www.awea.org/pubs/factsheets/Cost2001.PDF Fuel Levelized costs (cents/kWh) (1996) Coal 4.8-5.5 Gas3.9-4.4 Hydro 5.1-11.3 Biomass5.8-11.6 Nuclear 11.1-14.5 Wind (

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Standing Bear
On Monday 27 February 2006 21:34, Horace Heffner wrote: > On Feb 27, 2006, at 4:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Coal fired plants are a significant source of ionizing radiation, > > also. > > Yes indeed. An old post on this (edited for spelling) follows. > However, it is notable that the new e

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2006, at 4:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coal fired plants are a significant source of ionizing radiation, also. Yes indeed. An old post on this (edited for spelling) follows. However, it is notable that the new emissions free technologies for sequestering CO2 may solve th

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread RC Macaulay
Our local state owned electric power plant, Fayette Power operated by the Lower Colorado River Authority of Texas uses mostly Wyoming Coal railed down via some 2500 hopper cars owned or leased  by LCRA. Normal load per train is 100-115 hopper cars with two trains per day. A third of the hoppe

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner Yes, or the cost of acid rain.  <><><><><><><> Coal fired plants are a significant source of ionizing radiation, also. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Actually, this gets even more complicated. You have to factor in what I suppose should be called "timeliness" or "usefulness" or simply the value per kilowatt hour. As noted, gas turbines are used for peak power when it is most needed. Wind turbines produce energy when the wind blows, which may

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Page 2 shows the cost of a 1.65-MW turbine is $0.79/W, but actual power can come in at about 1/3 the nameplate rating, which gives about $2.40/W. That adjustment is reasonable, but it complicates things. By the sam

Re: Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Page 2 shows the cost of a 1.65-MW turbine is $0.79/W, but actual power can come in at about 1/3 the nameplate rating, which gives about $2.40/W. That adjustment is reasonable, but it complicates things. By the same token, you might adjust nuclear power, because nuclear

Update on Energy Costs

2006-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
Please let me know if any numbers look wrong. The following data and references are related to http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/BigPicture.pdf, especially the data in Table 1, repeated immediately below. Table 1 - Current energy plant capital cost in $/W Gas turbine 0.5 Wind