weird glow from aluminum... is UV output short or long?

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005, William Beaty wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, thomas malloy wrote: > > According to Reich, nanobacteria, or something similar, can be > > produced by placing beach sand, previously heated to incandescence on > > sterile growth medium, in a orgone accumulator. Perhaps this strate

Re: weird glow from aluminum... is UV output short or long?

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, William Beaty wrote: > What if the blue glow from Al electrolysis CAN produce tanning; what if > it's a source of "hard" shortwave UV radiation? Separate topic: exotic biology. If the ultraviolet glow is from microbes, then bactericides such as Sodium Azide or perhaps even c

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:58:02 -0900: Hi Horace, [snip] After Bill's post, and before mine, you posted two messages. In the first, you wrote:- -- "My opinion is the glow is probably caused by recombinat

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If the electrodes do indeed form diodes, and the glow occurs during reverse bias, then that is when a high voltage falls across a very thin chemical layer. The electron leakage current could be sufficiently accelerated to produce energet

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 26, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Frederick Sparber wrote: At Sandia Labs in 1960-61 I made instant Hard Anodized Aluminum (6061T6) rods and strips by dipping them into a weak acid solution such as "Molybdic" with lots of dry ice in the solution using a brass plate as the cathode. A 250 D.C. po

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

goes Hydrolysis of HCO3- to form OH - anions too. Fred > [Original Message] > From: Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 12/26/2005 5:30:01 PM > Subject: Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution > > > On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Robin

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to William Beaty's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:50:46 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] Mix 1 tablespoon baking soda in 1 pint water. Cut two electrodes from an aluminum pie dish Place the elctrodes on opposite sides of a jam-jar. Con

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:50 AM, William Beaty wrote: See What is the mechanism? Brian WhatcottAltus OKEureka! I just noticed in the above page Nyle Steiner writes: "The aluminum becomes the cathode after a forming process of applying s

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and box beams rather than I beams. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona (80oF Christmas :-) ) -Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:59 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: weird glow from aluminum Exactly. What does nano-metabolism look lik

Re: weird glow from aluminum

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, thomas malloy wrote: > Vortexians; > > > > >Also... whenever electrochemistry is concerned, I always wonder if > >hyperthermophilic nanobacteria have involved themselves. They specialize > > If nanobacteria are doing the reaction, why is electricity required? Exactly. What

Re: weird glow from aluminum

Vortexians; Also... whenever electrochemistry is concerned, I always wonder if hyperthermophilic nanobacteria have involved themselves. They specialize If nanobacteria are doing the reaction, why is electricity required? According to Reich, nanobacteria, or something similar, can be produc

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

Another variation on electrospark: No excess energy, but uses AC, LiOH electrolyte, 6061 alloy Al rods, and is way up in the electrospark regime at 400 V. Nice photos and description. Horace Heffner

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Michael Foster wrote: I don't think its accurate to refer to this as electroluminescence. It's more like electro-scintillation. If you look at the electrode under about 40X magnification, it resembles a swarm of fireflies. Most of the light given off is apparently

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Michael Foster wrote: > I don't think its accurate to refer to this as electroluminescence. > It's more like electro-scintillation. If you look at the electrode > under about 40X magnification, it resembles a swarm of fireflies. Anodized aluminum has a VERY weird structure;

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

Sometimes I can't get anything right! Sorry. One more time ... On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:50 AM, William Beaty wrote: In a dark room, the electrodes glow. See What is the mechanism? An aluminum oxide layer grows on the surface of the electrodes to

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:33 PM, I wrote: Given a voltage drop across the interface of 200 V, and a thickness of the nonconducting layer near the anode as 20 angstroms, the electrostatic field would be 2x10^12 V/m. This should have said: "Given a voltage drop across the interface of 120 V, an

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

The diode effect must essentially come from the difference in mobility of protons through the cathode interface layer vs OH- through the anode interface layer. Continuing this line of thought, and the bumbling and stumbling around, if neutral OH is indeed created at the anode then OH- is a

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:50 AM, I wrote: The diode effect then essentially comes from the difference in mobility of protons vs OH- through the anode interface layer. That should say: "The diode effect then essentially comes from the difference in mobility of protons through the cathode interf

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Michael Foster wrote: Robin wrote: If the electrodes do indeed form diodes, and the glow occurs during reverse bias, then that is when a high voltage falls across a very thin chemical layer. The electron leakage current could be sufficiently accelerated to produc

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If the electrodes do indeed form diodes, The electrodes do indeed form diodes with high breakdown voltages, depending on the metal and electrolyte used. For example, Al and Zr, can glow, Mg and Pb produce no glow. It takes while

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

Robin wrote: > If the electrodes do indeed form diodes, and the glow occurs > during reverse bias, then that is when a high voltage falls across > a very thin chemical layer. The electron leakage current could be > sufficiently accelerated to produce energetic electrons capable of > exciting

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:50 AM, William Beaty wrote: See What is the mechanism? I wrote: "As food for thought, you might also check out: " Messing up things as usual! That should have said:"As fo

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

i go with that.  especially, as i said, the color matches when you burn it.  therefore it makes sense that we have electrons jumping to higher valence energy levels, and emitting when they drop. On 12/19/05, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  William Beaty's message of Mon

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

Somewhat surprising that Robin didn't mention hydrinos. If there is something beyond a mundane explanation for this, then obviously Horace's "blue glow" fits the situation - yet the AEH has features in common with the hydrino-theory. Also - as regarding borax - the 'alternate' hydrino theory o

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

In reply to William Beaty's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:50:46 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] >Mix 1 tablespoon baking soda in 1 pint water. >Cut two electrodes from an aluminum pie dish >Place the elctrodes on opposite sides of a jam-jar. > >Connect the electrolytic cell in series with a 75 watt lamp

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:50 AM, William Beaty wrote: See What is the mechanism? As food for thought, you might also check out: Even though the blue glow is an anode effect, proton involvement is

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:50 AM, William Beaty wrote: See What is the mechanism? This was discussed here in 2004 and prior years. For some background see: My opinion is the glow is probably ca

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

first thought, id have to do it to match, but the color of the glow is similar to burning baking soda.  it could simply be the layer on the alluminum valence jumping. On 12/19/05, William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See below!-- Forwarded message --Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:35:

weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

See below! -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:35:07 -0600 From: Brian Whatcott Reply-To: Forum for Physics Educators <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Electroluminescence Demo Mix 1 tablespoon baking soda in 1 pint water. Cut two electrodes from