Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:38:30PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > So in this case, the only time the PC's CPU is used is to tell the CD player > > "Play", then it sits idle. Everything is done by the CDROM drive. > > you're not thinking low level enough. system calls are performed by the >

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Alex Mandel
Micah J. Cowan wrote: Kernel space? What the heck are you talking about? There is a direct analog connection from the CD drive to the sound card. It doesn't ever even touch the mother board. The signal sure as hell isn't routed out through the soundcard to the motherboard, and then back into the

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:30:50PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 2:27 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:54:14PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 1:17 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > On Fri,

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 27 Jan 06, 3:17 PM, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > No. The CPU is involved in many read-copy operations when the signal passes > > through the sound card. > > > It was my understanding that in this "analog"

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 27 Jan 06, 2:27 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:54:14PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 1:17 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > On Fri

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > No. The CPU is involved in many read-copy operations when the signal passes > through the sound card. It was my understanding that in this "analog" CD audio playback scheme, the data is extracted by the CD Drive itself, convert

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:54:14PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 1:17 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 12:50 PM, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > On Fri,

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 27 Jan 06, 1:17 PM, Micah J. Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 12:50 PM, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 05:06:09AM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > Digital

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Fri 27 Jan 06, 12:50 PM, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 05:06:09AM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > Digital extraction is where the cd is read, and the signal gets pumped > > > through

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 27 Jan 06, 12:50 PM, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 05:06:09AM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > Analog extraction is where the the cd is read, the signal goes through a > > cable between the cd player and sound card, which gets pumped through your > > sp

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:37:31PM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote: > Thanks for the step by step directions. I had been using KSCD for music > CD's. > But KSCD's volume is poor. XMMS really projects nice volume. I had been > using XMMS for radio, but not CD's. I think the issue here is that XMMS

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 05:06:09AM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > Analog extraction is where the the cd is read, the signal goes through a > cable between the cd player and sound card, which gets pumped through your > speakers. Point being, a physical connection between the cd drive and sound >

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Bob Scofield
On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:51 pm, Norm Matloff wrote: > Many thanks to Micah and Bill for their response to my query on the audio > CD problem. Here is the result. > > > > I was able to get my machine to work by taking a combination of Micah's > and Bill's advice, PLUS something I found on the

[vox-tech] Re: vox-tech Digest, Vol 20, Issue 28

2006-01-27 Thread Norm Matloff
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:06:09 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Jay Salzman) > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem > To: lugod's technical discussion forum > > harder, since the symptoms there had been worse. But it turned out to > > be a very simple problem in that

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 11:51:08PM -0800, Norm Matloff wrote: > I then turned to my daughter's machine. I had thought this one would be > harder, since the symptoms there had been worse. But it turned out to > be a very simple problem in that case: The file permissions on /dev/hdc > were not set

Re: [vox-tech] update on the audio CD problem

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 26 Jan 06, 11:51 PM, Norm Matloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: ... > 1. I downloaded and installed a plugin for XMMS, > >xmms-cdread-0.14a-4mdk.i586.rpm > > (It did not seem to matter that that was a Mandrake RPM while my > machine runs Fedora Core 4.) That's pretty com