Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-26 Thread Larry Ozeran
Thanks to all who commented on this thread. I had 3 requests to post my summary, and no complaints (though the 3 days I promised aren't up yet). Here is what I have to date. Please keep in mind it is intended for the general public as part of a letter to the editor of our local paper. I left in som

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-26 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 10:39:09PM -0700, Ken Bloom wrote: > > On 2003.09.25 21:53, Rob Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 20:00:51PM -0700, Mitch Patenaude wrote: > > Sorry. I was thinking back to my earlier email where I was discussing > > encoding a domain name to look innocuous. Here wa

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-26 Thread Larry Ozeran
FWIW I tried to go to the "unencoded" address below and Netscape fails the DNS lookup, so that browser doesn't do translation. Also, it looks like somebody has been listening. I tried to go the the bogus site just now and received a "document not found" in Russian and English. - Larry At 10:39 P

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-26 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Thursday, Sep 25, 2003, at 21:53 US/Pacific, Rob Rogers wrote: Which is quite easy to do, is done frequently via .htaccess, and doesn't work in 99.9% of these cases because they're being served off of the fake webserver, not linked directly from the real one. I have seen several where the image

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2003.09.25 21:53, Rob Rogers wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 20:00:51PM -0700, Mitch Patenaude wrote: Sorry. I was thinking back to my earlier email where I was discussing encoding a domain name to look innocuous. Here was my example: http://www.citibank.com%2e%61%33%6b%73%64%2e%50%69%53%65%4d%2e

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2003.09.25 21:53, Rob Rogers wrote: > Again, I still had my previous emails in my head, and was continuing > from there, making assumptions about things without specifying them. > I believe we're talking about two very different things here. The > only Hotmail exploits I've seen have had

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Rob Rogers
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 20:00:51PM -0700, Mitch Patenaude wrote: > On Thursday, Sep 25, 2003, at 11:23 US/Pacific, Rob Rogers wrote: > >I see a couple other problems with this idea too. First, this is the > >first phishing scheme I've seen that loaded the actual homepage. Most > >just steal their l

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Thursday, Sep 25, 2003, at 11:23 US/Pacific, Rob Rogers wrote: I see a couple other problems with this idea too. First, this is the first phishing scheme I've seen that loaded the actual homepage. Most just steal their logos. Yes.. that was actually what got me thinking.. when image files are lo

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 12:26:09PM -0700, Larry Ozeran wrote: > If there is a preponderance of interest in seeing my summary, I'll > post it back to this thread. Consider this my statement of preponderancing. ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL P

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Larry Ozeran
Hi all - This is really interesting and really concerning. I would like to take selected parts of the discussion (for brevity and clarity) and send it to my local paper. Please indicate (offline is fine) if you would prefer to be named or kept anonymous. If you do not want your comments included,

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Rob Rogers
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:04:54AM -0700, Michael J Wenk wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 10:23:11AM -0700, Mitch Patenaude wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 06:30:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >http:// > > >www.citibank.com:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/3/ > > >?IYTEw > > >4eVTtbH1w6CpDrT > > >

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Michael J Wenk
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 10:23:11AM -0700, Mitch Patenaude wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 06:30:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >http:// > >www.citibank.com:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/3/ > >?IYTEw > >4eVTtbH1w6CpDrT > > Maybe a way for places like Citibank, Paypal and other fraud prone sites > to

Re: [vox-tech] OT: one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.

2003-09-25 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 06:30:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http:// www.citibank.com:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/3/ ?IYTEw 4eVTtbH1w6CpDrT Maybe a way for places like Citibank, Paypal and other fraud prone sites to help prevent this would be to check the referer, and if it's a strangely formed url