Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-10 Thread Rod Roark
On 10/1/19 8:40 pm, Rod Roark wrote: Very cool to see the passion alive here. Apologies for not quoting it. :) I like Postfix and find these tips useful:   https://www.linuxbabe.com/mail-server/block-email-spam-postfix On my own MTA I do use online blocklists and greylisting, but not spamassa

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-10 Thread Rod Roark
Very cool to see the passion alive here. Apologies for not quoting it. :) I like Postfix and find these tips useful:   https://www.linuxbabe.com/mail-server/block-email-spam-postfix On my own MTA I do use online blocklists and greylisting, but not spamassassin or antivirus. Not a big fan of co

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Bill Broadley (b...@broadley.org): > Do you really think lugod's new mail server should be some weird > conglomoration of upstream source, > and out of tree patches? > > That's batshit insane in my book. Fortunately, I nowhere suggested that. Not intending to complain, and I gladly ack

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Broadley
Rick we seem to be violently agreeing on most technical details. I think a large part of the problem is you have too much experience and too much history. You can give a cursory glance at the 1700 line readme and have a good instinct for which pieces to ignore, which pieces to use, and which p

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-09 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Bill Broadley (b...@broadley.org): > I hear this line of thought, and am always puzzled by it. My recipe is: > 1) run a current OS with a current spam assassin, like the newest ubuntu LTS > or >newest debian stable. > 2) run postfix and whatever glue you like (mail filter, amavis, an

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Broadley
On 1/8/19 8:25 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Architecting effective antispam for a modern mail server is an art form, > alas. You can very easily set up an MTA on essentially any Linux > distro, but it'll default to basically no spam-rejection at all, and > improving on that gets punted to the local admi

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-08 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Timothy D Thatcher (daniel.thatc...@gmail.com): > What happened was that I discovered earlier today that ClamAV had > apparently been misbehaving and had tanked mail/listserv service > entirely, and for a few days, it turned out. I also actually ran an > apt update/upgrade and rebooted the

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-07 Thread Rod Roark
Tim, I see what you mean. The server is into swap space but is responsive and working, so nothing seems urgent. Probably what you want to do is research current best practices for spam control. Cheers, Rod On 8/1/19 5:49 pm, Timothy D Thatcher wrote: Rod, Oh lord. It appears that the beginni

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-07 Thread Timothy D Thatcher
Rod, Oh lord. It appears that the beginning-of-month "reminder that you're on a listserv" emails all fell within that time period. Those emails timed out, which generated an email to tell us that it's timed out, which didn't get sent because *all* mail was timing out, all due to clamav apparently

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-07 Thread Rod Roark
Hi Tim, I just sent you a sample. I'm not a procmail guru... perhaps someone else here has ideas. Regards, Rod On 8/1/19 4:55 pm, Timothy D Thatcher wrote: Hi Rod, Primarily me now, I think. What happened was that I discovered earlier today that ClamAV had apparently been misbehaving and had

Re: [vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-07 Thread Timothy D Thatcher
Hi Rod, Primarily me now, I think. What happened was that I discovered earlier today that ClamAV had apparently been misbehaving and had tanked mail/listserv service entirely, and for a few days, it turned out. I also actually ran an apt update/upgrade and rebooted the server myself several hours

[vox-tech] Test/Upgrade

2019-01-07 Thread Rod Roark
Checking if this still works. To LUGOD admin(s): I started getting a ton of "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" emails from mailer-dae...@lugod.org. It looked like ClamAV being outdated might have been an issue so I did an upgrade and rebooted. Not sure if that mattered though. Who's the L