Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Mon 24 Nov 03, 7:06 PM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Monday 24 November 2003 04:58 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:39 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Sun > 23 Nov 03, 12:5

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Wenk
On Monday 24 November 2003 05:26 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:39 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > On Sun 23 Nov 03, 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > On Saturday 22 Novemb

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Wenk
On Monday 24 November 2003 04:58 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:39 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Sun 23 Nov 03, 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > On Saturday 22 Novembe

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread rhonda
On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:39 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Sun 23 Nov 03, 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > [snip] Pete sa

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:55 AM, Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 24 November 2003 02:22 am, Michael Wenk wenk-at-praxis.homedns.org > |lugod| wrote: > > On Sunday 23 November 2003 01:20 am, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Mic

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Mon 24 Nov 03, 2:39 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Sun 23 Nov 03, > 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > but never mi

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 November 2003 02:22 am, Michael Wenk wenk-at-praxis.homedns.org |lugod| wrote: > On Sunday 23 November 2003 01:20 am, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Michael Wenk wrote: > > > Ya know, there's one thing that always makes me la

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Wenk
On Sunday 23 November 2003 03:21 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Sun 23 Nov 03, 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > but never mind that. let's talk about something else. > > > > > > > > > > so we have a gu

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Wenk
On Sunday 23 November 2003 01:20 am, Mark K. Kim wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Michael Wenk wrote: > > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > but never mind that. let's talk about something else. > > > > > > > > > > so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-23 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Sun 23 Nov 03, 12:53 AM, Michael Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > but never mind that. let's talk about something else. > > > > > > > > so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris box. he wants to > > > > install someth

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-23 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Michael Wenk wrote: > On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > but never mind that. let's talk about something else. > > > > > > > > so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris box. he wants to > > > > install something. i forget what it wa

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-23 Thread Michael Wenk
On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:51 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > but never mind that. let's talk about something else. > > > > > > so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris box. he wants to > > > install something. i forget what it was. oracle? anyway. he wants > > > to do it from a

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Sat 22 Nov 03, 4:32 PM, Michael J Wenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:47:23AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Fri 21 Nov 03, 9:15 AM, David Margolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >On my

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-22 Thread Michael J Wenk
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:47:23AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Fri 21 Nov 03, 9:15 AM, David Margolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > > > > >On my SuSE box, I can make any user a member of the group "root" and they > > > >wi

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread David Margolis
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > ps- i will state again: the thing that you said is not a bad idea is > STILL not accurate. UID != GID. you say it will "largely have the > desired effect". > > i don't know about you, but when i'm administrating my system, i want to > have THE

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 21 Nov 03, 9:56 AM, Richard Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris box. he wants to install > > something. i forget what it was. oracle? anyway. he wants to do it > > from an account named "joeschmo", rather than "root". > > I installed O

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread Richard Crawford
> so we have a guy who presumably owns a solaris box. he wants to install > something. i forget what it was. oracle? anyway. he wants to do it > from an account named "joeschmo", rather than "root". I installed Oracle on a Solaris 9 box. To do so I created a user for Oracle, but nothing spec

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 21 Nov 03, 9:15 AM, David Margolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > >On my SuSE box, I can make any user a member of the group "root" and they > > >will have full privileges. > > > > that's not quite accurate. UID != GID. > > >

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread Jonathan Stickel
David Margolis wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On my SuSE box, I can make any user a member of the group "root" and they will have full privileges. that's not quite accurate. UID != GID. pete Yeah, but that's still not a bad idea. If files owned by root are also owne

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-21 Thread David Margolis
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > >On my SuSE box, I can make any user a member of the group "root" and they > >will have full privileges. > > that's not quite accurate. UID != GID. > > pete Yeah, but that's still not a bad idea. If files owned by root are also owned

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 20 Nov 03, 3:53 PM, Trevor Lango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>"Mark K. Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There's no swapping of UIDs. It's *adding* a username to a UID. It's a >> common practice and it shouldn't break anything on a system. > >On my SuSE box, I can make any u

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Trevor Lango
>"Mark K. Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no swapping of UIDs. It's *adding* a username to a UID. It's a> common practice and it shouldn't break anything on a system. On my SuSE box, I can make any user a member of the group "root" and they will have full privileges.  

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, David Margolis wrote: > "Tricking" the permission scheme by swapping UID's is gonna > seem like it worked until some shell script calls root by name later and > bombs (or something...I just think it will eventually break). There's no swapping of UIDs. It's *adding* a usernam

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Richard Crawford
David Margolis said: > Assuming you have sudo installed, the safest way is to do a sloppy (in > my opinion) entry in /etc/sudoers that matches root's entry in that > file. 'man sudo' for lots of good info... Sudo is not installed on these machines. Hm. Not yet, anyway. I've discovered that the

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread David Margolis
Assuming you have sudo installed, the safest way is to do a sloppy (in my opinion) entry in /etc/sudoers that matches root's entry in that file. 'man sudo' for lots of good info... A slightly better way is the way OS X does it. I've stolen this idea for a couple Linux boxes. Create an "admin" gro

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Rob Rogers
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:13:49 -0800, Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Having root privileges means your UID is 0 - i.e. you are logged in as root. I have never tried this, but I suppose you could go into /etc/passwd, etc/shadow and /etc/group and rename root to some other name. But there is su

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Tim Riley
Richard Crawford wrote: > Let me add a disclaimer at the beginning of this: I do not know why this > person wants to do this, and I have already advised them that it is not > the safest course of action. > > But anyway. > > They want to set up their user login on their home *nix machine so that

Re: [vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Rod Roark
On Thursday 20 November 2003 01:03 pm, Richard Crawford wrote: > Let me add a disclaimer at the beginning of this: I do not know why this > person wants to do this, and I have already advised them that it is not > the safest course of action. > > But anyway. > > They want to set up their user lo

[vox-tech] User with root privileges

2003-11-20 Thread Richard Crawford
Let me add a disclaimer at the beginning of this: I do not know why this person wants to do this, and I have already advised them that it is not the safest course of action. But anyway. They want to set up their user login on their home *nix machine so that they have root privileges. I have nev